Thank goodness for talented friends!
I'm using the Al Armitage plans from the May/June 1993 gazette.
I started drawings and material lists right after Christmas.
Here is pic from the net
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I started with the frame
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I picked up a model T kit for some of the running gear.
The tiers were too small so I reached out for help.
Volker came to my rescue and drew this;
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I had it printed in SBF but it was rough
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So Volker came up with a different version.
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Unfortunately for me I think inserting the FED letters in the cut outs will not work out for me.
I'm hoping with some weathering I can improve the first versions look. After all they are 17 years old as modeled.
That's enough for now.
Wait till you see Chucks axle he drew for me!
Marty
I predict another masterpiece. -- Russ
Cool, that's a great looking truck.
Not bad for a beginner!! ;)
Jerry
Unc don't jinx me
Thanks Ray
Jerry, I'm trying.....
After I saw Chuck's I beam axle I asked if he would send me the file.
Well he went above and beyond!
He not only copied the one from the plans but added the spring mounts!
It turned out perfect!
I had it printed in bronze.
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Once I get the steering knuckles built (I should have drew and printed them) I will take a better view.
Marty
Okay, I take it back. This model probably will be garbage. But it sure has started out well! -- Russ
Marty, looks like you've got a good start. Are you going to do a full motor detail? And are you doing the cab and grain bed as the Gazette plan shows?
Gordon Birrell
BTW, I would love to have a set of those tires.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gordonbirrell/
Thanks Gordon,
I'm going to use the engine casting from the kit - it's close enough for a start.
I have some pretty decent pictures and it's not all that complicated.
I will detail it as much as reasonable, going to have to now that the hood is operable.
pictures soon
Yes, the plan is for the wood cab (not the C cab that looks like a ford).
Not 100% sure on the bed but some sort of box bed.
I've seen variations on the sideboards.
Once I get the chassis done and the cab i will play with bed ideas.
Mj
A good start, Marty! That first tire does look like it's been sitting out in the sun & weather for 17 years, and you didn't even have to pay/work extra for the effect. Chuck's axle is excellent, looks great in bronze.
This should/will be a great build.....Allan
The hood
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Tops are .005 brass.
Bottoms are .005.
Louvers were cut by hand and shaped with a toothpick.
Marty
That is way cool!
Yes it is!
Awesome work Mr. Jones.
Jerry
Adequate. A longtime friend and top narrow gauge modeler phoned Sunday and said you've become one of his favorite modelers. I tried to change his mind but he was stubborn. No accounting for taste. -- Russ
Awesome. Also love the "springs" .....Allan
Talented work with the toothpick Marty, the rest looks pretty good too.
Michael
Moving at a breakneck speed (insert snail here).
I am making some progress.
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Still lots to do. Wheels are barely set together just for a picture.
Hoping this will get me going.
I "had" been enjoying the pleasant weather happily making sawdust and shavings in the woodshop.
Summer sure has artived this week so more inside bench time will be happening.
Morr soon (hopefully!)
Marty
Looks good Mr. Jones. But were does one sit?
Or is this a work in progress??
Jerry
I'm assuming that the tires, being 3D printed, are not flexible, correct? So how do you get the tires onto the rims?
How did you make the louvers? -- Russ
Thanks guys!
Russ, look on the bottom of page one. Basically an exacto and a round toothpick.
Marty
Oops, sorry. It's been so long since that post I had forgotten. -- Russ
First try on a front fender:
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Second try. Added some padding to the buck (wood form) .005 brass annealed before bending.
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Im hoping some solder on the lip will behave like lead body filler.
Mj
Marty, Nice work!
That is tricky metalwork. I am impressed. Be sure to post a photo of the completed fender before you prime it. -- Russ
Wow that looks great MJ.
Jerry
Thanks guys for the praise.
I'm working on the firewall and the front of the cab.
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Lots of wood in old cars and trucks. The firewall and transmission tunnel are brass obviously.
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I am having trouble "imagineering" the inner fenders. No good pictures in the net. Hopefully having the cab will help.
Marty
Marty, I find using old manila file folder stock good for working out my metal designs. It glues nicely with Elmer's.
Marty, nice job on the work so far. I really like the work on the front end. What 1/16th scale kit are you using for the engine parts? I'm looking for an engine for my Packard work truck.
Gordon Birrell
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gordonbirrell/
It's a model T touring. I can be more specific if need be.
The early 4 cylinder flat heads all look very similar.
I was looking for a truck but the prices were a lot more.
They are out there just got to be (more) patient. ;)
We have a Packard museum down here. Let me know if you need me to do some picture taking or measuring!
I need to find some larger pieces of glass, any suggestions?
Marty
Looks great Mr. Jones. Really nice with the wood.
Jerry
Marty, thanks for your help. Who is the maker of the touring car kit? What truck kits were you looking at? and what is the name of the museum? I have four 1/16th scale Ford kits all with four cylinder motors.
Minicraft 1931 Ford model A Sedan.
Minicraft 1931 Ford model A Pickup
Entex 1931 Ford Model A Sedan
Entex 1913 Model T Van
I can't help you on the glass, I use Evergreen Scale Model clear sheet. .010, .015 or .020.
Gordon Birrell
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gordonbirrell/
Marty,
for the glass you may try vivak, which is an easy to work plastic, much more scratch resistant than acrylic glass. It comes in different diameters. I mademy buildings' windows of it. Didn't Ray use real glass (microscope slides or something) for his outside buildings?
Cheers,
Volker
Marty -
What is the minimum size of glass that will work for you, and what is the maximum thickness you'd accept?
Bill Martinsen
Volker
I have some of that but really want to use "glass"
Bill
I have been using the 1" by 2" or 25mm by 50mm
What i have is #1 which is .007 thick.
That said i am looking for #2 (.016" would be spot on perfect scale)in just a little larger size. 2 x 3 would be great.
I found some that size but they are very expensive!
I can use the ones I have but bigger is better.. ;)
Marty
Marty -
I've had trouble finding sources for the #2 thickness in "larger" sizes and what I did find is $$$$$.
I'll keep looking and let you know if I find anything.
Bill Martinsen
I had the same problem trying to find real glass for my buildings. The slide cover glass that was big enough tended to be really expensive.
I gave up on it, and now I use some 1.5mm thick glass that I bought from a surplus outlet online.
Wow Ray, I guess you need bullet proof glass out there!
Marty
If you have to use a thicker glass that you would like paint the edges black. Once in the frame it will hide the thickness look of the glass.
couple progress shots
couple more
That's a fine looking vehicle so far.
Looking forward to the wood paneling getting some paint.
Jerry
Nice work! -- Russ
Looking really good!
Quote from: lab-dad on May 22, 2016, 02:28:29 PM
I am having trouble "imagineering" the inner fenders. No good pictures in the net. Hopefully having the cab will help.
Marty
I'll have a quick hunt for some 'related' photos - ZIS-5 (Soviet copy of Autocar) has basically the same fenders (mine were vac-formed in styrene).
Hopefully the pic's will clear up the "inner fender" problems.
Nice work thus far, what type of wood are you using ?.
Thanks guys!
Turtle, I'm thinking once I get the fenders in position I can figure out the inners.
Wood is basswood.
Currently torn between paint and none.
Marty
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Still plugging along.
As usual other hobbies get in the way.
Guess i need a shot of the interior before the roof goes on!
Marty
Nice to see some progress on this!
Been busy with "life" and all it's inconveniences....
Glad to get this completed.
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Hoping to make a little scene for it and will add the usual junk in the bed.
-Marty
Good to see you're back at it! That truck turn out very nice.
Gordon Birrell
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gordonbirrell/
He's alive ... ALIVE! And doing satisfactory work on his models. I like that one, Marty. -- Russ
Marty, Looks very good. Well worth the wait to see it completed.
Wow, that looks amazing!
Thanks guys!
Good to be back even for a little while...
Marty
A big "very nice"
Barney
Always a pleasure to see your work. Very well done.
A few details in the bed would really be nice.
Jerry
"A few details in the bed would really be nice."
Jerry, are you sure you want to get that personal?
ssuR
Yea! Some junk in the trunk!
I'll see what I can come up with......
Maybe there could be an old set of bedsprings and a couple of boxes of trash which need to be taken to the dump ;D