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Title: Making Trees
Post by: Brent on August 11, 2010, 06:29:25 PM
I found an old sagebrush branch and think it would make a wonderful tree in O-scale. It would be around 80 feet high. Any suggestions as to what to cover it with for leaves? Polyfiber alone doesn't look right.

Thanks,
Brent
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: JohnP on August 11, 2010, 07:18:02 PM
Silfor makes some cool material that has bits of stuff on longish threads that make it have the appearance of leaves on branches. Woodland Scenics has a pull-apart poly fiber mesh with ground foam on it that costs less. You could sprinkle on leaf material to give it more texture.

If it is a tree or two for a diorama spare no expense. For a layout, time and money need to be balanced.

Try http://www.scenicexpress.com/ (http://www.scenicexpress.com/) for ideas.

John
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: RoughboyModelworks on August 11, 2010, 11:05:16 PM
Brent:

Carefully selected pieces of sage make excellent tree structures, especially when you live in an area where you can pick it up on the side of the road. I used sage in the past but got around the foliage issue by modelling a late fall scene with the trees bare of leaves. I ground up some real fall leaves and randomly scattered the bits round the ground cover underneath the trees... it was quite convincing.

Paul
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: finescalerr on August 12, 2010, 01:23:47 AM
Not too long ago somebody posted a bunch of links for laser cut and photo etched scenery materials. Some of the laser cut paper leaves might also be of use. -- Russ
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: Malachi Constant on August 12, 2010, 04:23:58 AM
Hi Brent --

Regarding Russ' comment ... Nick & I posted a bunch of links for leaves etc. that might prove useful:
http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=811.msg15807#msg15807

Link takes you to my post, then scroll down to Nick's post directly below that.

There's also a "Vegetation with Modeling" (aka "scenery") section on the Mig Forum:
http://www.migproductionsforums.com/phpBB3/

That has some examples of Nick's fine work and some other items that might provide inspiration for "better" looking scenery.

The Silflor that John mentioned is listed as "leaf flake foliage" here:
http://www.sceneryexpress.com/products.asp?dept=1246

That's a relatively simple solution that would look much better than polyfiber or any of the WS products.  It's not in the "trees" category, so figured I'd post a link to the right sub-section in the "grass & ground cover" category -- which might be worth a review for other brands/items.

Don't forget to post your progress or results!  8)

Cheers,
Dallas
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: DaKra on August 12, 2010, 05:45:04 AM
Been experimenting with a model tree.   Maybe you could fluff out the branches on that sage with some pieces cut from dried Meerschaum, the stuff that Scenic Express sells as "Super Trees", then cover that with leaf material as per the various methods suggested.

I got the Scenic Express Super Trees starter kit.  I'm no fan of starter kits as they are usually padded with junk you don't need or already have.   This kit was no exception (spray bottle, vac formed trays, self clamping tweezers) but it did come with a lot of useful stuff too, and was fairly priced.    There is a generous amount of the tree material, and a bunch of different foliage products to experiment with, including Noch paper leaves which are really nice.   The "Matte Medium" in the kit is a very effective brush/spray on adhesive.

Dave   
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: shropshire lad on August 12, 2010, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on August 12, 2010, 01:23:47 AM
Not too long ago somebody posted a bunch of links for laser cut and photo etched scenery materials. Some of the laser cut paper leaves might also be of use. -- Russ



  So I'm just a "someone" now ? Oh well , that is one up from being a " no one" !

  I , personally , wouldn't bother with individual leaves in O scale . However , companies like Noch produce leaf products that would look good in that scale . Use them in conjunction with the polyfibre .

   Nick
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on August 12, 2010, 11:28:27 AM
Quote from: shropshire lad on August 12, 2010, 10:28:41 AM


  So I'm just a "someone" now ? Oh well , that is one up from being a " no one" !

    Nick

Don't knock a promotion Nick, not everyone gets to these dizzy heights
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: eTraxx on August 12, 2010, 12:00:34 PM
Just a suggestion. Read through the thread on making trees (http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23011&whichpage=1) on the railroad-line forum. Some pretty good information there.

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Title: Re: Trees
Post by: finescalerr on August 12, 2010, 12:33:47 PM
Nick you really are a "someone". Someone who should remain standing in the corner!

On a less serious note, yes, I suppose that was your post. While I hate to admit it, the links were so good I already have referred three modelers to it. That and the information on this thread should provide outstanding information for anyone interested in modeling vegetation.

Russ
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: jacq01 on August 12, 2010, 12:57:06 PM
 
 
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Read through the thread on making trees on the railroad-line forum.

  Jos Geurts is one of the best tree builders I know.

  here another link in German with a tremendous amount of info on all sorts of trees.

  Read through the thread on making trees on the railroad-line forum. (//http://)

  here a french speaking swiss reference  with english text. for next page click on "suivant" :

  http://www.gilbert-gribi.ch/arbres%201.html (http://www.gilbert-gribi.ch/arbres%201.html)   The rest of Gilbert's site has also some interesting " how to" 's

  Jacq
 

 
Title: Re: Trees
Post by: Brent on August 13, 2010, 01:45:14 PM
Wow!  What great responses. I will try a couple different methods and report the results.
My thanks to all of you!
Brent