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Title: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on October 04, 2010, 09:44:06 AM
A few 1/48th details I'm currently working on. The blacksmith is from Aspen models, figured I'd put him to work doing something besides holding a hammer. These details may not meet your high standards, but figured I'd participate just the same. I have a few more items to complete,  coal box, need to hollow out the quench barrel, and make a crank handle for the grinding wheel. Not shown is the stoker handle. All of the items are cast resin from hand made masters. I really need to familiarize myself with print-a-part and the software. 

Philip       
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: lab-dad on October 04, 2010, 09:47:30 AM
It all looks good to me! I missed the smithy at Aspen's booth.
They have a neat looking forge too.
-Marty
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on October 04, 2010, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: lab-dad on October 04, 2010, 09:47:30 AM
It all looks good to me! I missed the smithy at Aspen's booth.
They have a neat looking forge too.
-Marty

Thanks Marty! The AM forge is not up on the website as of yet. Here is a better picture with the hideous yellow background removed.

I'm having major difficulties casting that crank handle. Gravity is not my friend. I guess resin has its limitations?

Philip

Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Ken Hamilton on October 04, 2010, 01:31:58 PM
(Who ever said our standards were HIGH?)
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Belg on October 04, 2010, 02:18:44 PM
Philip, I think these are very well done. Why not use a small piece of brass wire and bend it to shape needed? Are you making these to sell or for your own use? Can't wait to see them finished and painted. Pat
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: finescalerr on October 04, 2010, 03:27:35 PM
Everything I see looks fine. I suspect judicious use of fine sandpaper here and there would improve whatever you consider imperfect. -- Russ
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on October 04, 2010, 05:37:27 PM
Thanks for the nods and comments.  Much appreciated!

Quote from: Ken Hamilton on October 04, 2010, 01:31:58 PM
(Who ever said our standards were HIGH?)

Ken: I have noticed your lumber stacker posts here and a big difference of the perception of your contest results on the other RLF forum. No battery explanation over there. I for one hadn't noticed the 12 volt battery. Just a beautifully well done model!  :)

Quote from: Belg on October 04, 2010, 01:31:58 PM
Why not use a small piece of brass wire and bend it to shape needed? Are you making these to sell or for your own use?

Pat: I want a crank handle similar to a butter churn and yes I'll eventually sell this item. I'm unfortunately colored blind so I may decline showing the finished item for now. I'm leaning toward a tiny crank handle similar to the one in the photo, very tedious casting (slow and time consuming)! Oh the joy of 1/48th!

Quote from: finescalerr on October 04, 2010, 01:31:58 PM
I suspect judicious use of fine sandpaper here and there would improve whatever you consider imperfect.

Russ: Yes the components have parting marks,  an evil of my castings.


Philip


   
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Belg on October 27, 2010, 04:28:14 PM
Philip, I'm sure it was tedious and finicky work but you have done a very nice job recreating the handle. Pat
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: JohnP on October 27, 2010, 06:28:54 PM
In 1:48 that is very nice casting. The handle is great, and the gear held up well. Good job sir.

John
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on October 27, 2010, 07:36:57 PM
I appreciate the nod gentlemen! I'm kind of sidetracked on this project with some pending 1:1 headaches. It's always refreshing seeing project developing here!  (other members stuff) 

Philip  :)
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Mobilgas on October 27, 2010, 08:07:12 PM
Aspen models ?  I like the smithy and the detail's.... are the details going to be made and sold ;D  How would someone be able to buy such items.     Craig
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on October 28, 2010, 07:42:47 AM
Quote from: Mobilgas on October 27, 2010, 08:07:12 PM
Aspen models ?  I like the smithy and the detail's.... are the details going to be made and sold ;D  How would someone be able to buy such items.     Craig

yep, Aspen resincastings! The hammer handle was replaced.. a very fragile casting. No other gripes with the product.

I'm way behind on this project. Once finished it will be available from.....
www.smith-models.com
I think I just broke a forum policy.

Philip
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Mobilgas on October 28, 2010, 05:07:39 PM
Philip,   Thanks for the info....always looking for cool new stuff in O scale ;)  Craig
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: marklayton on December 14, 2010, 05:37:41 PM
A terminology nit...a smithy is a building where the smith works.  You've all read the the Longfellow poem...

Under a spreading chestnut tree, the village smithy stands;
The smith, a mighty man is he, with large and sinewy hands...

Mark
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on December 14, 2010, 07:16:31 PM
Quote from: marklayton on December 14, 2010, 05:37:41 PM
A terminology nit...a smithy is a building where the smith works.  You've all read the the Longfellow poem...

Under a spreading chestnut tree, the village smithy stands;
The smith, a mighty man is he, with large and sinewy hands...

Mark

Indeed Mark.  Thanks for noticing the error & not marching me barefoot through the hot coals. I have a pretty good collection of blacksmith books yet may never understand the mechanics entirely.

Philip
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Chuck Doan on December 15, 2010, 07:19:07 AM
Very nice Phillip!
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Frederic Testard on December 15, 2010, 12:39:43 PM
I like it too, Philip.
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on December 15, 2010, 04:50:10 PM
Thanks!

8)

 
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: JohnP on December 15, 2010, 05:59:25 PM
That is cool stuff. I watched a smith in his smithy doing his smithing at the http://www.blueridgeinstitute.org/ (http://www.blueridgeinstitute.org/) one Fall day. It was hot, cramped, loud and real fun to see. It is one of those things I always wanted to try. Your set of parts will make a finely detailed scene.

John
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on December 15, 2010, 06:49:33 PM
John, A pretty good moonshine section at that website . Another one of my scale addictions!
Nice little submarine still! 
Philip

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blueridgeinstitute.org%2Fmoonshine%2Fimages%2Fstuff3.jpg&hash=c6f969d1d0998091bbfd9a421d8a86cbb4a21caa)
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Chuck Doan on December 16, 2010, 07:15:37 AM
Looks well researched, Phillip! ;D
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: marklayton on December 16, 2010, 06:19:51 PM
Philip -

Very nice painting and weathering - the castings really came to life.  Except for the 20th century heavy chipping vise, this scene looks very appropriate for countless rural blacksmiths from the late 18th century through the 1880s.  The grindstone is timeless, and London-pattern anvils (single horn) were being imported as early as the 1750s.  Once electricity and one-lung gas engines appeared on the scene, bellows quickly gave way to blowers, and belt-driven Little Giant power hammers replaced the apprentice swinging a sledge hammer.  Some bellows did survive into the early 20th century, but that was not very common if the smith was at all successful.

The heavy timber structure to support the crane is a nifty touch.  It could also support a lever-arm "drill press."  Drilling into iron was tough work before wall-mount, screw-feed blacksmith's drill presses arrived after the Civil War.  Which is why most holes were punched hot.  The smith could buy metal-cutting bits for his bit brace, but you can imagine the force that must be applied!  So when a drilled hole was needed, it was common to use a long wooden lever arm to apply great pressure onto a bit brace.  Can't lay my hands on a photo.  Think in terms of sturdy table attached to, or sitting against one of the vertical posts.  A lever, perhaps 3' long would pivot from the post, mounted around chest-level.  The metal to be drilled is laid on the table, a bit brace is positioned under the lever arm, and the smith would pull down on the free end of the lever while reaching to turn the brace.  We can't imagine what a boon electricity was to these guys!

You mounted the lever arm correctly for the bellows.  I built a bellows set for the historic blacksmith shop in a park in Kingsville, MD, and I've demonstrated with the bellows at another museum shop.  Two-chambered forge bellows are heavy; the mechanical advantage of the long lever is essential, and it needs to be right by the forge.

My shop is not so romantic – pneumatic forging hammer, hydraulic press, milling machines, power saws, and other modern conveniences!

Mark
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on December 16, 2010, 07:51:13 PM
Mark,

I'm actually trading the vise out for a leg vise and adding a swage block. Should take delivery early January. Thanks for sharing first hand knowledge. Very interesting this bit brace? I'll search for photos as I don't recall seeing or reading about that devise. May have to add another item if I can locate a photo.

thank you!   

Philip     
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on February 27, 2011, 07:16:31 PM
Finally finished this one........

Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: finescalerr on February 28, 2011, 01:20:17 AM
Satisfactory. -- Russ
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Frederic Testard on February 28, 2011, 03:24:59 AM
The scene is very nice, setting it outside seems an interesting concept.
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on February 28, 2011, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: Frederic Testard on February 28, 2011, 03:24:59 AM
The scene is very nice, setting it outside seems an interesting concept.

yes a certain remedy for rust and extra maintenance.

thanks gents!
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Malachi Constant on February 28, 2011, 10:26:40 PM
Philip --

You've got an awful lot of interesting detail packed into both the moonshine and blacksmith scenes ... I want to point out something especially interesting, like the details on the bellows or something, then my mind and eyes wander over to some other curiosity.  Neat stuff!

Cheers,
Dallas
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on March 01, 2011, 05:00:31 AM
thanks Dallas!

The moonshine dio isn't mine. It's from the link John provided. Wanted to hammer that home. :)
Phil

(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smith-models.com%2Fuploads%2F2%2F8%2F1%2F8%2F2818361%2F5986594.jpg&hash=0752b23ba3c5f1b4a993385cdd1193ec3129dec7)
Title: Re: Blacksmith details
Post by: Philip Smith on May 10, 2011, 06:09:23 PM
Russ,

Thanks for allowing the free advertising plug! Many thanks! It's official, all ten kits are sold!  A second run is in the works, hopefully in a couple of .... No hurry. 8)

Philip