The 'Tips and Tricks' section of PaperModelers.com is an excellent way to pass some time with some interesting ideas. Following my own advice I found a thread titled Corrugations made easy (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=234921226&st=0) .. linked to on a Brit forum. This links to a website, Fassett Studios and his modeling tools (http://www.fassettstudios.com/tools.html) .. where clicking the links takes you to eBay .. and clicking through .. found Scale Coorugated metal makin die SET - O (1/48) scale (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scale-Corrugated-metal-making-die-SET-O-1-48-scale-/360322470442?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item53e4e4922a#ht_500wt_1287). He has other scales .. and other tool also.
For the price $8.99 inc. shipping .. I dropped an order for the O scale die.
I'm to Old and Cranky to make my own Corrugated roofing :o
I bought a couple of scale rulers / squares from him thru the ebay listings a while back ... rec'd those quickly. He has some interesting stuff: squares, t-squares and French curves with scale markings. Dunno if an ABS corrugated "die" would be any better than using .040" thick corrugated sheets from Evergreen or Plastruct, though. ??? -- Dallas
Please report back when you have tried it. -- Russ
I did actually try his HO scale version. They are not bad, but I am not 100 % happy.
His HO dies are actually to scale, but I think they have a little lack of definition. I tried different materials and different tools to push in the grooves. I ended up using some corrugated styrene sheet as a die. That makes the texture slightly oversized, but it just looks a little better.
But I love the simplicity of his product. And the price is not bad.
Report follows:
Fassett Studios 1:48 Corrugated Metal Die - $8.99 including shipping -
What I got:
- An instruction sheet for those that can't figure out that you either (1) rub the foil against the corrugations .. or (2) press the foil between the two dies.
- Two plastic dies
- A 1:48 triangle (freebie)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages52.fotki.com%2Fv637%2Fphotos%2F2%2F1709102%2F10812225%2FImage1-vi.jpg&hash=ba2db458105863b52635e8dd70565800120e6839)
Everything out of the plastic and a piece of 4-ft x 8-ft aluminum waiting. The back of the dies has a pattern on it ...
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The die. The corrugations are triangular you notice - CNC milled?
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The top piece was formed by rubbing my thumb over the aluminum and pressing into the die. The lower one by pressing the aluminum foil between two dies. The bit on the right is from rubbing the foil against the textured back of the die.
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Interesting. The one on top is from rubbing the foil against the die and the one underneath from pressing the foil between the two dies .. and the bit on the right the one from rubbing the foil against the textured back of the die.
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.. and the freebie triangle
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It seems to do a decent job. Thanks, Ed. -- Russ
Let's see if I'm reading the notes against the pictures correctly ...
Looks like you get a softer/curved profile by rubbing the foil over the die and a more angular profile by stamping? Looks like both could be quite useful.
Cheers,
Dallas
Quote from: Malachi Constant on July 09, 2012, 02:42:22 AM
Let's see if I'm reading the notes against the pictures correctly ...
Looks like you get a softer/curved profile by rubbing the foil over the die and a more angular profile by stamping? Looks like both could be quite useful.
Cheers,
Dallas
Yep. The softer/curved profile was by rubbing the foil against the die with my thumb and the angular one by stamping. The curvy one looks to me like 'regular' corrugated while the angular resembles some of the newer stuff. What I want next is to get my hands on some of the Food Service Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil. Hmmm. Need to ask where the local eateries get theirs at
You can find the "heavy" foil at the grocery store. -- Dallas
I was referring to what's termed "Foodservice Foil". Evidently (hearsay since I haven't actually handled any) it is 'Sooper' Foil and heaver then the stuff sold in the grocery stores. Do a search for Reynolds 632 - Heavy-Duty Aluminum Foil. Damn stuff is expensive as hell .. $100 for 500' x 18". Found it for $62.77 a roll at Reliable Paper (http://www.reliablepaper.com/Aluminum_Foil_Roll_Xheavy_18_X_500_RPO_p/rey632.htm?Click=53223l) .. geeze. Evidently the List is $212 a roll. You would THINK it was gold plated! Wish I could find it sold in sheets as would like to 'play' with some.
Ed,
you can also use these disposable turkey pans if you only need a limited supply.. Or cookie pans. They only cost a dollar or so.
Or you order a lot of take-out!
Aluminum shim stock ... down to .001" thickness:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#shim-stock/=ibz9h7
$17-18 for a small roll (6" x 50")
Quote from: BKLN on July 09, 2012, 09:18:12 AM
Ed,
you can also use these disposable turkey pans if you only need a limited supply.. Or cookie pans. They only cost a dollar or so.
I used that for the corrugated roofing for my 1:24 building .. and the Fiskars Paper Crimper to make the corrugations. Have since thought that if I could make a new 'gear' for O scale .....
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Ed, or anyone...
What is the period (peak-to-peak) distance for corrugated made with the Fiskars Crimper?
Would it be scale (or close) for 1:24 use?
Carlo
Quote from: eTraxx on July 09, 2012, 09:33:20 AM
Quote from: BKLN on July 09, 2012, 09:18:12 AM
Ed,
you can also use these disposable turkey pans if you only need a limited supply.. Or cookie pans. They only cost a dollar or so.
Ed: I have used a craft foil called ArtEmboss in the past with good results. It is available at stores like Michaels. Comes in a tube containing a sheet about 8x10. It is a heavy foil and when formed on Evergreen styrene sheet corregated it makes a very believable corregated roofing. For what it is worth.
Caro, the valley-to-valley (easier to measure) was 0.080-in or 2.032-mm
Looking at Corrugated Metal (http://www.corrugatedmetal.com/corrugated-metal-panels/) there are all kinds of variations. In the Corrugated Galvanized iron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrugated_galvanised_iron) wiki page it says that - "Pitches have ranged from 25 mm (1 inch) to 125 mm (5 inches)."
In O scale that .080" pitch is 3.84" or 1.944" in 1:24
Edit: If you look back to page 1 I posted a pic of my structure I did in 1:24 .. I used Fiskars Paper Crimper for that corrugation
Quote from: JohnJ on July 09, 2012, 11:48:10 AM
Quote from: eTraxx on July 09, 2012, 09:33:20 AM
Quote from: BKLN on July 09, 2012, 09:18:12 AM
Ed,
you can also use these disposable turkey pans if you only need a limited supply.. Or cookie pans. They only cost a dollar or so.
Ed: I have used a craft foil called ArtEmboss in the past with good results. It is available at stores like Michaels. Comes in a tube containing a sheet about 8x10. It is a heavy foil and when formed on Evergreen styrene sheet corregated it makes a very believable corregated roofing. For what it is worth.
John. That looks promising. I don't need much of an excuse to make a run to Michaels. :) .. thanks