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Title: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Rail and Tie on September 02, 2013, 12:35:53 PM
Here is the prototype build of the CR LAMB which was the last operating Sternwheeler in BC, Canada.  She was 94 feet long and 20 feet wide at 124 tons.
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Ray Dunakin on September 02, 2013, 01:00:14 PM
Beautiful! Amazing work for HO.
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: darrylhuffman on September 02, 2013, 03:04:28 PM
Beautiful work.

Steamboats are one of my favorite things to think about modeling.

I am happy you have actually built a model of one.

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: marc_reusser on September 02, 2013, 09:37:27 PM
That is a very cool model and subject. Great character. Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: finescalerr on September 03, 2013, 12:43:05 AM
Although nowhere do you mention it, I assume you built the model. If so, can you tell us a little about how? -- Russ
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Gordon Ferguson on September 03, 2013, 01:21:06 AM
I really like that , sweet piece of modelling and nice degree of weathering.

I too, would interested in more details of how you built and finished it
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: BKLN on September 04, 2013, 06:26:10 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Barney on September 04, 2013, 09:37:42 AM
Now that is nice - nice detail and the weathering is just right not overdone details of the build would be good
Like the little guy just standing doing nothing
Barney
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Rail and Tie on September 04, 2013, 09:38:58 AM
Yes, I did build this as the prototype of a new limited kit we have out at Interactionhobbies.com (not trying to plug the model)...

It is mostly build from laser cut basswood and Resin Board. The hull is planked up to show some swelling, rot and in need of some paint and care. I like to use the resin board as backer to the basswood as it really stabilizes and strengthens the basswood. Plus details like the window sills can be pre-painted before assembly in layers. I used some micro LED's the come pre-wired as we are including a lot of lighting in our kits to promote how easy it is to add lighting to models these days.

I did a build thread of this over on MRR forums and on the modelshipworld (not sure if it is ok to post links here on this site to other forums).

Here are a few pics of the work in progress.
The hull is planked up using white glue and CA to hold in place until the white glue sets up. Don't have to be perfect as it all gets sanded down and you want a bit of unevenness to show up later as swelling and rot.
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Rail and Tie on September 04, 2013, 09:43:45 AM
For weathering the hull, I used 6 ot 7 coats of AI solution to get slightly chalky to allow the paint to flake. Then I painted on some Golden Titan Buff in light coats and dabbing. Then a top coat and some more dabbing of Golden Titanium White and let partially set up. Then with some scotch magic tape I rubbed it down over the surface and peeled back to get some of the paint removed. The chalky AI underneath let go in some areas showing a nice peeled paint, especially along the plank edges where it built up more.

I should have painted the red strip first before peeling, but touched up later with swome dabbing of white over it.
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Rail and Tie on September 04, 2013, 09:51:26 AM
The walls are basswood and resin board underneath. I 3D engraved the hinges and applied them seperately. Also chewed some material from under the doors to show rot from constand water splashing up. The paint still looks fresh as they painted the boat about once every other year. Lots of coats built up and the hinges always rusted the walls. I thought the constrast of the fresh paint and the constant wear of the water was interesting. These boats only lasted for 10 to 12 years, though the LAMB ran for over 30.

I laser cut up some chairs to add to the interior.
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Rail and Tie on September 04, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
These make for some cool detail kits!
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Rail and Tie on September 04, 2013, 09:57:31 AM
I had some details 3D printed. The lifeboats, liferings, capstan and searchlight. Also did them in N Scale.

These were printed on an OBJET 30 which I find is better resolution from what I get from Shapeways. Also the chemical bath they do seems to remove most of the rastering lines without removing the detail. Very little clean up needed. Price for the services was about the same as shapeways, but local in Canada without the UPS $40 brokerage charge!!!
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Hauk on September 04, 2013, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: Rail and Tie on September 04, 2013, 09:38:58 AM

Here are a few pics of the work in progress.
The hull is planked up using white glue and CA to hold in place until the white glue sets up. Don't have to be perfect as it all gets sanded down and you want a bit of unevenness to show up later as swelling and rot.

The work on that hull is awesome!

Regards, Hauk
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: TRAINS1941 on September 04, 2013, 02:33:15 PM
Very nice work.  Thanks for posting.

Jerry
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Ray Dunakin on September 04, 2013, 08:17:11 PM
Great stuff!

Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: finescalerr on September 05, 2013, 01:46:50 AM
Gee, you sure have big hands. -- Russ
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: chester on September 05, 2013, 06:30:25 PM
Excellent.
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Max Corey on September 06, 2013, 01:37:47 AM
Having built several stern wheel steam boats, I can appreciate your work on the Lamb.   I wish I had taken construction photos of the Susie (and many models for that matter).

Great model, thanks for showing her off.

Max baling hay in MI
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Rail and Tie on September 06, 2013, 11:26:04 AM
Thanks for the kudos folks! We think the kit turned our really well. Judging by initial orders, we are on to something!!

The railings represented a challenge to make it easy for a modeler to build as part of the kit without having to glue together a bunch of sticks. With drawing this model up in 3D cad and having everything precicely fit,  The railing was cut flat and the resin board curved beautifuly to fit the curve in the front and the arch of the decks. The top railings have doublers on them to give them some depth.

Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Max Corey on September 11, 2013, 01:16:13 PM
Very nice.  Glad to see another sternwheeler.   Steamboats go right along with early railroads right up to present.

Max in MI
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: lenelg on September 27, 2013, 03:14:42 AM
An absolute beauty - cannot believe this is HO scale!

Only one thing has me confused: Is this a full hull model of an extremely flat bottomed boat, or is it a waterline model?  Looks like a waterline model, but the whole sternwheel is visible.. Or is is an "inbetween" - designed to be sunk into clear silicone caulking or resin water?

/Lennart Elg
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: 5thwheel on September 27, 2013, 08:22:15 AM
Quote from: lenelg on September 27, 2013, 03:14:42 AM
An absolute beauty - cannot believe this is HO scale!

Only one thing has me confused: Is this a full hull model of an extremely flat bottomed boat, or is it a waterline model?  Looks like a waterline model, but the whole sternwheel is visible.. Or is is an "inbetween" - designed to be sunk into clear silicone caulking or resin water?

/Lennart Elg

It is not my intension  to speak for Darryl or hijack this thread but to add in a little information on these smaller paddle wheelers.  The City of Eugene Sternwheeler was built and launched in 1889 here in Eugene, Oregon where I live. I had planned on building a larger steam model of it. Having done a lot of research on the smaller paddle wheelers I found most are very shallow drafted boats, some claiming to float in four inches of water.  It is very interesting how these boats worked over sand bars etc.

Very nice model Darryl.

Bill
Title: Re: C.R. LAMB Sternwheeler in HO
Post by: Rail and Tie on September 27, 2013, 02:21:26 PM
Hi Lennert, as Bill mentions, these boats have a shallow draft and most were basically flat bottomed.

For the CR LAMB, the Hull is waterline and in this case the Paddle Wheel is fully round so that I can route out the display water and have the wheel turn. It will be animated with a geared motor from below the water on a foam wheel turning the paddlewheel.  I designed the kit to be done this way alternately one can cut the bottom flush with the waterline during construction.

Interesting fact of most Paddlewheels is that the wheel only dips into the water about a paddlewidth. Anymore than that and it creates drag. Successful ship designers spent a lot of time figuring out the curve of the water flow to insure the right amount of paddle for the design and speed was worked out.