G'evening all,
As it seems I'm tending to be easily distracted from my stuff (and attracted by new projetcs), instead of finishing some of my humble modelling attempts, apart from the permanent lack of time and space (and periodical occurence of problems with my thumbs joints), I came to the conclusion to combine all my little projects and build a kinda "minimal layout" in 1/16 scale. I have the idea in mind of a scene, representing the backyard of a hospital with a supply railway, comparable to a layout built by Ian Campbell years ago: Potter & Klayman (http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page100/) (please scroll halfway down) ... or have a look here: http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page76/campbell.jpg (http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page76/campbell.jpg)
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This loose arrangement of semi finished (or just started) modelling objects consist of a circular testdrive (gauges 16,5 mm and 26,7 mm), a piece of track (gauge 26,7 mm), a card board mock up of some building's backsides, the CAT-style forklift truck (still under construction), a former test chassis from styrene representing a waggon and the reference guy in 1/16 scale.
I'm not quite sure, if the layout will finally have a circular track.
In case of interest please feel free to make any input/suggestions -would be very much appreciated.
Planning or building progress respectively will be reported as well on my blog, now mainly focussed on 1/16 scale modelling ...
Cheers
Looks promising!
Sounds like a good idea to me!
When I see a circle of track in such a small space it destroys any illusion of realism. I would encourage you to use wider curves and/or straight track even if you can only run the loco back and forth. Your modeling is too good to let an unrealistic loop of track compromise the overall impression. -- Russ
Quote from: finescalerr on October 02, 2013, 07:47:29 PM
When I see a circle of track in such a small space it destroys any illusion of realism. ...
... don't worry, my intension ist not to build a kinda pizza layout, with a building in the middle and a train running around, which seems a quite popular layout type among the Gn15 guys. But I'd love to have a moving vehicle on that layout, just for meditative purposes ... 8) ... and will try to find out, if it would be possible to hide a part of the track/full circle and eventually add i. e. a switch or crossing, to create an illusion of realism. If it does not work, I'll change the layout to an (automatic) shuttle type, moving between start and end.
At first I'm gonna think about (and build) a matching new mock up showing the rear side/back yard of some workshop (buildings). What would be typical for a backyard scene in your imagination: brick walls, halftimbered, concrete, well-worn stucco? I'd like a combination of all, i. e. stucco (wall) on the right, may be with a chimney (bricks) on it's left corner and wooden shed addition on the left ... well, let's see, how the backyard of a hospital would look like ... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Narrow_gauge_railroad_-_Geriatriezentrum_Lainz_21.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Narrow_gauge_railroad_-_Geriatriezentrum_Lainz_21.jpg)
Cheers
G'day all,
Recently I started to create a mock up of an rail tractor from card board, even smaller than the CAT rail tractor, which has been heavily inspired by an ASEA storage battery locomotive (Lok 23) (http://fmbbm.laurell.nu/association/drawings_battery.html) of the Frövi Maskin & Bruksbanemuseum. I did not finish it as it appeared too bulky (not to say ugly) to me, but I thought the chassis looked very pleasing and could be useful to build a matching kinda "modern" Feldbahn wagon. So I created this mock up of a bulkhead flat car, whose platform has the dimensions (in scale) of an Euro-palette (1200 x 800 mm).
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I'm gonna use 1/22,5 scale Feldbahn wheels which have mainly the dimensions of the ones used on the wagons former running at the hospital supply railway in Lainz/Vienna. As the gauge in Lainz (500 mm) is close enough to my prototype gauge (430 mm), I decided spontaneously to build the backyard of a hospital with supply railway instead of a workshop backyard. To give you an impression what I have in mind or how the "backyard" of a hospital may look like respectively (example Lainz/Vienna):
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The orange colour I chose is in accordance with the colour used in Lainz on the Struppe Akkuloks and wagons. The transportation purpose of my tiny hospital supply railway layout will not be the distribution of meals, but the transport of laundry and supply goods. Regarding the small dimensions of rail tractor and wagons, the operation of the railway can take place in the basement of the hospital buildings as well. Indoor operating hospital supply railways did exist in the past in a few places, IIRC the Hôpital St. Jean-de-Dieu in Montréal and eventually the Hôpital du Sacré-Cœur too was/were among them IIRC ... http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IgJvpZ33MpM/UjIEyXLeT9I/AAAAAAAAYnQ/NKmgQORMbpo/s1600/st+jean+de+dieu+hospital.JPG (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IgJvpZ33MpM/UjIEyXLeT9I/AAAAAAAAYnQ/NKmgQORMbpo/s1600/st+jean+de+dieu+hospital.JPG)
Cheers
Do the scene in that last photo -- it would make a wonderful vignette / dio that would get rid of the "typical" little circle of track and show off the equipment beautifully! ;) -- Dallas
Quote from: Malachi Constant on November 06, 2013, 09:07:24 AM
Do the scene in that last photo -- it would make a wonderful vignette / dio that would get rid of the "typical" little circle of track and show off the equipment beautifully! ;) -- Dallas
... don't worry, Dallas ...just in case it would gonna have a circle of track, latter will be either mainly not visible or or not being recognizable as a (full) circle ... and the scene shown in the last photo is one of my favourites at the moment ... ;D
I have plenty of pics in stock regarding the supply railway in Lainz (can't show them here), but these are accessible to good old public: http://schienenfahrzeuge.netshadow.at/db/categories.php?cat_id=1637&page=2 (http://schienenfahrzeuge.netshadow.at/db/categories.php?cat_id=1637&page=2)
Cheers
This is a very unique and creative idea. I like it and look forward to seeing what you do. -- Russ
Cool project! I had no idea that there were hospital with their own railroads.
G'day all,
While working on a first sketch/card board mock up, you might be interested in some more stuff about my inspirational prototype in Lainz ...?!
Well, here you go ...
This video is mainly about delivering the meal containers to the single buildings in 2009, while the railway was still running ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcCybrLDA20
and this video has been recorded in December 2011 as a kinda farewell event, when all railway operation ended (after over 100 years!) ...
http://vimeo.com/34046022
Enjoy ...
BTW: I once started to build a model in 1/22,5 scale of the Struppe Akkulok (http://www.de.feldbahnmodellbau.de/fahrzeuge-struppe-akkulok/) (kindly supported by Frithjof), but failed at first attempt due to lack of necessary skills (and tools) ... :P
It's an amazing little railroad right in the middle of the city, a wonderful subject you choose.
QuoteBTW: I once started to build a model in 1/22,5 scale of the Struppe Akkulok (kindly supported by Frithjof), but failed at first attempt due to lack of necessary skills (and tools) ...
You came a long way Gerald, great work so far.
P.S. Your "first" try looked very clean and well built.
Nelson,
Quote from: nalmeida on November 10, 2013, 02:45:42 PM
QuoteBTW: I once started to build a model in 1/22,5 scale of the Struppe Akkulok (kindly supported by Frithjof), but failed at first attempt due to lack of necessary skills (and tools) ...
You came a long way Gerald, great work so far.
P.S. Your "first" try looked very clean and well built.
... thanks for your kind words ... everything went swimmingly so far, but the styrene went out of shape after a while, due to some solvent/component of the liquid styrene glue I suppose, apart from the fact that I overrated my modelling abilities regarding i. e. the axleboxes, as I recognized receiving some close ups like this one (
kind contribution/by permission of User Soundy of EBFÖ):
G'day all,
well, now this is going to be a little more serious ... 8)
To get a vague idea regarding the dimensions, I chose a square piece of cardboard measuring 40 x 40 cm, which eventually has to be enlarged a few centimeters. On it I glued the shape of an a circular track with a diameter of 30 cm, as well as a diagonal arranged piece of (more or less) straight track, each one printed simply on paper. The building mock up itself is made from cardboard with brick wallpaper (brick laying enthusiast may look away ;)) ... and it is huuuuuuge in 1/16 scale - even it's not a whole building. This diorama corresponds with the above mentiones scene, where the meal containers are loaded to the wagons of the supply railway.
The circular track (not sure, if it will be still a circle in the final diorama) is not visible and recognizable as a full track because of several buildings covering/hiding the track (supply railway ist running indoors in that sections).
Even this diorama is not going to be a copy fully true to the original supply railway in Lainz, it is heavily inspired by it. Therefore I guess I have to think about another storage battery locomotive or storage battery rail tractor respectively, showing basic elements of a Struppe Akkulok or an AEG Akkulok.
Cheers
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G'day all,
after building the cardboard mock up I started building an archetype model made from styrene, using strips, shapes and sheets mainly .020" (0,5mm) thick. This archetype has already a slightly more narrow wheel base in comparison with the card board mock-up, regarding the real tight radii. Building the next (real) model I'm gonna make some minor changes construction wise, to make the wagon more sturdy.
Cheers
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nice, clean & crisp!
that would be an east shape/structure to build in brass and solder.
also using some angles would stiffen it up considerably.
Mj
Quote from: lab-dad on December 02, 2013, 08:21:29 AM
nice, clean & crisp!
... thanks, Martin - methinks it's OK for a first attempt ... :)
Quote from: lab-dad on December 02, 2013, 08:21:29 AM
also using some angles would stiffen it up considerably.
... yeah, it will have some minor changes in it's frame construction ...
Quote from: lab-dad on December 02, 2013, 08:21:29 AM
that would be an east shape/structure to build in brass and solder.
... had the same thought looking at these pics, but I guess the motor bogie powering the rail tractor will not be strong enough to move a couple of wagons made from brass ... ::) ??? ... but I'll consider definitely a brass version (later on) ...
Cheers
G'evening all,
I was not really satisfied with the frame construction using flat bars similar to the ASEA loco. So this is just a short update showing the first step of the second approach.
In case I would build this wagon in 1/1 scale, I'd use rectangular tube - so I did ... using evergreen styrene rectangular tube und strips for frame and bulk head construction ... turned out to be much more sturdy! The cargo area is from styrene too, a brand new item I snatched up at my favourite architects supply online shop - comes with different types of checkered structure (in different scales), measuring 100x60 mm, thickness approx. 1,1 mm. The axles are from brass (milled), the Feldbahn wheels have a steel rim, combined with a resin core.
Cheers
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G'day all,
No big deal: building card board boxes from card board. Every model railroader has presumably built some boxes. My hospital supply railway will not only have laundry to carry, but also goods in boxes like disposable syringes, examination gloves etc.
I built (for testing) a packing case as commonly used for removals and some smaller boxes for use as outer package for the goods being delivered to the hospital.
The packing case in 1/16 scale is fully workable/foldable as the prototype. The outer package boxes partly still show reference lines, which were helpful cutting and folding the first boxes.
I used real duct tape (for parcels) to seal the boxes. Therefore I placed a piece of duct tape on a small piece of glass pane and cut off slices of 3,1 mm width (prototype 50 mm)
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Cheers
The boxes look great!
G'day all - and Merry Christmas!
The new version of the bulk head flat car is ready - umm, well ... at least almost - apart from axle boxes. Building the frame I used rectangular tube (3,2x3,2 mm) this time - that would make approx. 51x51 mm in 1/1 scale. To me the frame seems a little too massive now, so I'm presumably gonna build another version using strips measuring 2,5x2,5 mm, making approx. 40x40 mm in 1/1 scale. In contrast of that the couplings appear to be a little too delicate. I built them using rectangluar tube (6,3x6,3 mm) as well, cutting off one side with a circular saw. To the bulk heads I added strips measuring 2x2 mm for stabilization.
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Here's the bulk head flat car again in company with the CAT rail tractor (still unfinished)
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Cheers
I like the look ofthe tape on the boxes...very convincing; however, the boxes themselves casuse me some visual pause. The coloring is IMO to "speckled" from the paper texture, and the print is just a bit too black/oversatureated (not in scale.....ie. regarding "scale effect")
... adopt, adapt and improve (motto of the round table) ... 8)
Quote from: marc_reusser on December 26, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
... however, the boxes themselves casuse me some visual pause. The coloring is IMO to "speckled" from the paper texture ...
.... ummm, well ... and I thought I was such a wise guy, using a fonts with worn effect: 321 IMPACT (http://content.altfonts.com:81/img/0/0/321impactA.png)
May be, the speckled appearence was intensified by the structure of the very thin but a little rough card board ... ???
Quote from: marc_reusser on December 26, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
... and the print is just a bit too black/oversatureated (not in scale.....ie. regarding "scale effect")
... may be, this was also intensified by absorbent nature of this card board, as I reduced colour and saturation to 80 % IIRC ...
Never mind, they only where test objects - so there is plenty of room for improvement ... may the "too black/too saturated" effect can be reduced by using brown/packaging paper (more even) being laminated to thin card board instead ...
Cheers
G'day all,
Believe me or not ... re-doing this took a couple of hours!
As mentioned in my posting above I laminated brown packaging paper to very thin card board (160 g) this time. So I got a smoother/more even surface for better printing results. Then I drew a whole new box (using MS PowerPoint), a corresponding prototype I came across accidentally was very helpful. When fully dry I printed my drawing on the laminated paper/card board with an ink jet, using an x-acto for cutting and the back of a kitchen knife preparing the notches for folding, sealing the boxes with strips of real duct tape 3,1 mm wide.
BTW: Printing of letters looks far better viewed with bare eye ... :o
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Cheers
That looks sharp!
For me the packaging paper still looks far too coarse to represent cardboard. You may try it with coloring some fine(r) paper and then printing to it or printing everything including the color of the cardboard to it. I would use thinner paper to receive sharper edges.
Cheers,
Volker
What you have created would be excellent if you were somebody else. But you are you so Volker probably is right. -- Russ
Certainly improved! I think its pretty close if not there.
Quote from: finescalerr on December 30, 2013, 01:03:22 AM
What you have created would be excellent if you were somebody else. But you are you so Volker probably is right. -- Russ
Russ, Volker,
Thanks for your honest feedback - yes, there's still room for improvement, but imagine: theses boxes measure 25x37 mm, the smallest letters measure approx. 0,75 mm.
I did another test print on very smooth and even drawing card board, another one on the same card board, but without bold letters - the printing result is much the same. So may be the packaging paper isn't to blame ... I guess the ink printer simply can't print so tiny letters proper. Will try another test print on a laser printer, when I get hold of one within the next days.
Quote from: Chuck Doan on December 30, 2013, 09:29:28 AM
Certainly improved! I think its pretty close if not there.
... thanks for encouragement ... :) ... very much appreciated as well ...
In the meantime I have to choose, if I carry on with the layout itself, the wagon, the rail tractor (or another loco? ::) ) ... or else ...
Cheers
Quote from: mad gerald on December 31, 2013, 02:48:30 AM
In the meantime I have to choose, if I carry on with the layout itself, the wagon, the rail tractor (or another loco? ::) ) ... or else ...
Cheers
You know me...I always suggest finishing what you have already started before moving on to something new. :)
Sage advice from a paragon of virtue. But I'm surprised Nick didn't chime in hours ago. Indeed, he has been ominously silent for weeks. -- Russ
Think he is busy laying concrete blocks , both model and full size ......... Makes a change from bricks I suppose :)
G'day all,
less time x minor progress = only tiny update. I recently came across another card board mock up I built several months (or years) ago, which seems to fit here too. So I arranged the two card board mock ups to create a little backyard atmosphere ... Behind the annex with the green door there might be another higher hospital building, i. e. 2 stories high, the part with the roller shutter gate will be arranged in another position - or left out ...
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Cheers
Nice stuff this and different -Ever thought of building an aeroplane in Paper its less complicated than building brick walls ! and you will not have "Nick the brick" moaning about the colour of the mortar if that's the name of the stuff between the bricks !
Barney
Barney, the stuff between the bricks is tartar and they get it from dentists' offices. It comes in a variety of festive summer colors.
Less seriously, I like the addition of the second building and the passage between them. It adds greatly to the overall character and composition of the scene, allows for a switch to suggest more railroad, and generally makes the scene appear more believable. If you have the space, I think it is a big improvement.
Russ
Barney - one for you. Building aircraft out of paper with working hatch doors etc.
http://io9.com/this-meticulously-crafted-777-replica-is-made-of-manila-1504096998
Makes me think there is something to doing stuff in paper after all!!!!
Why not move the buildings with the green door and roller door frontwards a bit, so the tracks can go into the roller door opening. The tracks would emerge from the building a few centimeters behind, though several meters away in our minds. This would also give you some space to make a suggestion of a wall going back from the left side of the middle building.
Peter's idea sounds good! -- Dallas
... thank for your feedback, guys ... and for encouragement to add both, annex with green door AND wall with roller shutter gate to the scene ...
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No time for time consuming modelling regarding buildings or rolling stock, so I occasionally continued with unimportant accessories: The prototype of the white box I came across accidentally at the local high school ... :o ... for printing I used an ink jet and fine white card board (160g), giving better edges when folded (as recommended by Hydrostat/Volker). Again I used small strips (3,1 mm) of real duct tape (clear) sealing the box.
While testing different printers and sorts of paper/card board I found out, that ink jets simply can't print tiny fonts < 1 mm proper - but laser printers can! So I cut a piece of brown packaging paper in shape for printing with a laser printer and laminated the print to a piece of thin card board. To get better/sharper edges while folding here too, I treated the folded area with the flat side of a kitchen knife.
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Now I've got enough boxes to load the bulk head wagon ... 8) ... I guess you spot the difference between laser print (left) and ink jet print (right) on the following pic ;) ...
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Cheers
Oh. I thought my right eye needed a monocle. Very nice work on the cartons. -- Russ
Impressive detail in the laser print!
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:)
Wow! That first photo that Marc posted lends itself so well to diorama making ... you could slice it in any direction and have natural view-blocks where the buildings form the backdrop of the foreground scene ...
Quote from: Malachi Constant on January 29, 2014, 08:49:46 AM
Wow! That first photo that Marc posted lends itself so well to diorama making ... you could slice it in any direction and have natural view-blocks where the buildings form the backdrop of the foreground scene ...
I agree, that is such a great scene!
Whoa ... hey ... :o .. this (first pic) is waaaaay cool!
Would fit like a glove regarding my diorama, even this seems to be no hospital but a mining museum (?) ... plunges me also deep in despair, as I'm simply not making any progress regarding arrangement of buildings and tracks ... even more giving me this additional input ... ::)
Marc,
I tried to figure out where this place is located, but I did not manage to find out. Germany I suppose? And could that be Nick doing some brickspotting? ;) :)
Cheers
Gerald,
I think it is in Sweden, as I got the image from an industrial narrow gauge page on facebook that focuses largely on Sweden.
The moment I saw it, I thought of your project. :)
The picture Marc posted is from the Victorian era part of Hurst Castle in Hampshire , narrow gauge line was used to ferry supplies and shells for these
Now that's a home security system!
These looked interesting and maybe give you more to think about :D
.......
... food for thought again ... ::) ;)
Thanks, guys
G'day all,
Still in doubt, if the base area would offer enough space, I'm also still thinking about how to arrange tracks and buildings ... even more when you guys come up with additional input - especially like the scene located at Hurst Castle mentioned by Marc:
http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=2260.msg46229#msg46229 (http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=2260.msg46229#msg46229).
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IIRC when building a diorama it is recommended to avoid parallel arragement of tracks/streets and buildings in relation to edges of diorama (variation 1) ... but considering the forementioned scene at Hurst Castle, rectangular arrangement (variation 2) seems not to appear THAT strange/out of touch with reality ... comments/suggestions ... ???
1 = Building (corner), 2 story
2 = Building (half relief-like), 2 story
3 = Annex/shed with green door, 1 story
4 = Annex/storage depot with roller shutter gate, 1 1/2 story
5 = Building (relief-like) with fake escape similar to Marc's suggestion, 1 1/2 story
About parallel arrangement of tracks, buildings, edges: I think you need to consider the effect you want. If a diorama of a panzer, broken stone wall and dead bird is all parallel to itself and the edges then it looks a bit like a parking lot; and is not right. However buildings tend to be parallel to each other and to fences and tracks because land is expensive. Would you trust your body to a hospital that set out it's buildings at quirky angles? And most of the urban dioramas I like have lots of parallels: Alan Wolfson, nk, Ace radium.
However, I don't think it should all be parallel; you could introduce diagonals by having a few walls at 45 degrees to the rest, which would hug the track a bit.
I would delete building 2 and have the track visible there; more interesting. There could be a loading bay with a canopy over the track. You said you wanted the track to be out of sight, but it still is out of sight there if you are looking from the yard side. And vise versa.
Are you actually planning to operate this? If so, the bit of straight track at the back left could lead to a cassette, which you could scenic a bit and have a long view from the front down the cassette ... I realise that operation isn't a high priority here.
Here is Variation 2 without buildings parallel to the edge of the base. Best of both worlds? -- Russ
I think on your latest version, you could get a bit more of a visual block/stop, by placing an industrial overhead gangway/bridge (enclosed or open) between structures 1&2...or it could just be bunches of large overhead pipes running between the structures....something like this would also be useful to hide the top/edge of a backdrop, if you were planning on using one.
Not the best examples...but I think it explains the idea....(and I used to live in the buildings in the first image....walked across that may times.)
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... thanks for your remarks/suggestions, guys ...
@Peter
You're right - operation hasn't got high priority, but it would be nice to have a semi-automatic or continuous operation ...
@Russ
Did not even think about that before you came up with it - could be a real alternative ... I'm only beginning to dislike the fake escape on the left ... ::)
Quote from: marc_reusser on February 05, 2014, 01:14:31 AM
I think on your latest version, you could get a bit more of a visual block/stop, by placing an industrial overhead gangway/bridge (enclosed or open) between structures 1&2...or it could just be bunches of large overhead pipes running between the structures....something like this would also be useful to hide the top/edge of a backdrop, if you were planning on using one.
Marc: good point - taking a closer look at the Lainz pics I discovered, that there are actually ventilation shafts and pipes between some buildings ... !
Detail of pic linked from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Feldbahn_Geriatriezentrum_Am_Wienerwald (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Feldbahn_Geriatriezentrum_Am_Wienerwald) Author and owner of Copyright: User NVO
Maybe you can reduce the impression of a track running in a circle this way and add more depth and possibilities for taking pics from different angles to the scene:
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The hatched parts are overhead gangways, leading to higher buildings. They are cut through at the layout's edges.
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Cheers,
Volker
Volker,
Quote from: Hydrostat on February 08, 2014, 02:43:13 AM
Maybe you can reduce the impression of a track running in a circle this way and add more depth and possibilities for taking pics from different angles to the scene ...
... I
really like your idea/sketch and think this variation already shows the final arrangement of tracks and buildings ... thank you very much ideed for your effort - very much appreciated!
Cheers
I especially like the idea of hiding the circle. Can you make a little more room to add straight sections where the track disappears into the building? Whatever the composition, it is the modeling and those overheads that will "sell" this diorama. -- Russ
I'm absolutely with Russ. At least try to achieve a rectangular base, not square. But I figured out here what was possible using your square base.
Volker
Hi Gerald,
without a circle I would imagine that as nano layout well.
Only if I imagined, since there is a train in a circle. ::)
G'day all,
Planning the ,,foundation stone ceremony" regarding my layout I got a little bit worried about the amount of necessary bricks. Assuming the basic dimensions of the main building will be approx 25 x 30 cm (and 2 storeys high), it would need approx. 2000 bricks only covering the 2 walls visible to the viewer's eye. Pretty much and IMHO a little bit too expensive ...
Looking for an alternative I continued on a little exercise object with the attempt making bricks from card board similar to the technique introduced by Marc (http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1468.0) and tested be me too (http://www.de.feldbahnmodellbau.de/?p=100) ...
I made a drawing using MS PowerPoint, printed on card board (0,5 mm thickness) and cut the bricks with an x-acto, using PVAC glue to fix the single bricks and styrene strips (corresponding width of joints) for adjustment.
Now ... ,,... Cutting all these bricks by hand, it was so pretty slow ..." ... so a recommendation for a laser cut company would be very much appreciated, as the local ones around here are not interested in such minor jobs ...
Apart from the "bricks from card board" technique, I'm also dabbling with the idea making bricks from plaster using a mould i. e. as offered by Diorama Debris
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Cheers
To speed up the process of gluing individual bricks, try printing the brick pattern on the walls using address labels glued to the cardboard. That way, you can see where each brick goes and there are lines to follow.
The cardboard bricks look surprisingly realistic once painted.
Using Diorama Debris moulds will result in a much heavier module with all that added plaster on the buildings.
QuoteUsing Diorama Debris molds will result in a much heavier module with all that added plaster on the buildings.
You better believe it! :-X
Mj
What if you were to use cardboard bricks, as in the photo, and then paint on a thin coat of plaster or something similar? Perhaps you could then distress the plaster more easily than you could card ... and have the best of both worlds. Does anybody know of a good way to do that? Is it even possible? -- Russ
... hmmmm ... ::) ... I think I'll stick to the card board bricks (even though cutting them all by hand is a PIA) - at least regarding this excercise object ...
Cheers
Staying a bit with Russ's idea. Spray or roll a coat of paint on the bricks and sprinkle some kind of powder while the paint is still wet on them to give them some texture. Brush off what one doesn't want when dry.
Using cardboard I would recommend not to bend it round the corners. You may build the edge stones outside of the wall from two pieces, seal with CA, file to shape and then apply them. Chester's suggestions seems reasonable to me, maybe you can mix some coarse plaster or extremely fine sand into a brick red ground colour. Anyway you'll have to seal the cardboard for you'll have to add mortar and so on. There are several possibilities aside of CA like clear nail enamel or the stuff the cardboard kit providers use to strengthen their material before painting.
Cheers,
Volker
G'day all,
Thanks for your additional input, guys ... I especially like your suggestion, Ian:
Quote from: artizen on April 14, 2014, 03:03:23 PM
To speed up the process of gluing individual bricks, try printing the brick pattern on the walls using address labels glued to the cardboard. That way, you can see where each brick goes and there are
IMHO the card board surface does not need any treatment as it has a discreet/slight structure, similar to real slightly weathered bricks ... ::)
Using card board for bricks can work pretty well, have a look at Marc's attempt and result:
Quote from: marc_reusser on June 12, 2011, 12:35:28 AM
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My attempt was by far more humble and just for testing, if it would work, using the scrap from spiral binding systems and I built the bricks used for corners from 2 pieces, sealed with CA, as suggested by Volker ...
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Marc had cut the bricks for corners like this:
Quote from: marc_reusser on May 23, 2011, 09:57:38 PM
5.) Here is how the corners were done. The "wedge" is removed/cut from the side with the scribe mark. (the scribe mark serves as an "eye-balling guide" when making the cuts.
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The card board I use now has only a thickness of approx. 0,45 mm – and there appear no affections (bulges) on the surface, when I glue it around the corner.
Well, let's see how it looks like, when it gets coloured ... ::)
Cheers
That looks good.
G'day all,
Now almost all individual cut out card board bricks have been glued to the exercise object ... in fact ALL bricks are mounted while posting this ;) ... it was a real PIA (labor-intensive and time-consuming) ... but IMHO the (intermediate) result turned out to be quite good ... ::)
One thing I learned is, that the blade has to be pretty sharp - otherwise the card board tends to fray along the the cutting lines.
The other thing I noticed is, while gluing all these single bricks, that such a brick wall looks much better with some additional brick variations/ornaments (like in the upper section) and different layers. As there are several older brick buildings 'round here, I got good opportunities for research and comparison.
Now I'm waiting for the colours to arrive (I ordered recently), similar to the ones used by Marc ...
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Cheers
Looks quite good to me! :) -- Dallas
Looks great! I agree that adding some brick "ornamentation" helps a lot. It also is one of the things that distinguishes it from "brick sheet" modeling.
Oh, and I love the rust and peeled paint on the door!
No criticism. -- Russ
Very nice result!
... thanks, guys ...
Along with the Tamiya Acrylics came a rattle can "Mr. Primer Surfacer 1000" I ordered as well. I never used that primer before, but am very pleased with the result applying a first layer of primer. Regarding the bulk head wagon I'm not quite sure if I'd have to simulate welding lines as well where the square tubes are connected, apart from the fact, that I discovered the bulkheads not being exactly adjusted in an angle of 90 degrees in relation to the cargo area ... hmmmmm, would be good enough for colouring and weathering exercise ::) ... have to build a couple of wagons anyway ... ;)
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Cheers
Good start. -- Russ
That Mr. Surfacer is good stuff!
I think the model would look good with the weld lines.
-Marty
G'evening all,
Because I was afraid to spoil my small exercise building I glued some card board bricks on a separate strip of card board and tried 2 different kinds of colour: Acrylic colour on the left, but I was not able to mix the base colour Marc achieved (BTW: Has he been 'round here recently? ???) ...
Quote from: marc_reusser on May 23, 2011, 04:39:30 PM
The LP's thought a mix of Tamiya acrylics (Brown, XF-10 and Yellow, XF-3) for a base coat might help me feel better about the wrong sized bricks.... not likely. :)
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... artist water colour on the right, showing at first a much more matching base colour.
To apply the joint mortar into the joints at first I tried to sweep it in, using a paint brush (and the mortar to be fixed it with a layer of clear varnish when applied) - which did not work quite proper, especially because the mortar powder stuck too much to the surface of the bricks - or would not stay in the joints.
I then applied diluted PVAC glue with a paint brush into the joints, scattered the mortar all over it, removing the surplus of mortar with a bristle brush and a damp tissue. The artist water colour began to dissolve immediately and turned into a mess, the acrylic colour (even not protected by a layer of clear varnish yet) worked by far better - if I only could manage to mix a suitable base colour ... ::) :P
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Cheers
Gerald, I think you need to add more yellow to the brown. I used Tamiyathinned with the X-20 thinner (or maybe the lacquer tninner...cant recall at themoment), because it acts as both a stainand paint, and dries dead flat/matte, and is very durable.
I then sealed the bricks with a couple of heavy coats....can't recall if I used matte atists varnish or Dullcoat(it should be here in the forum thread or one of the mag articles)......regardless, the coats were applied heavily, with a brush...making sure that it flowed into the joints to seal those and the edges of the bricks.
Grouting was done with pre-mixed lightweight spackle ( this is the very lightweight fluffy stuff that comes in a plastic tub)....into which was added some acrylic paint/color. This mix was then troweled/spread into the joints, and wiped away (off the surface) using a fine damp sponge and left to dry.
Marc,
thanks for dropping in and support ...
Quote from: marc_reusser on May 05, 2014, 08:12:51 PM
... I think you need to add more yellow to the brown. I used Tamiyathinned with the X-20 thinner (or maybe the lacquer tninner...cant recall at themoment), because it acts as both a stainand paint, and dries dead flat/matte, and is very durable.
... I guess I'll need 1 or 2 more exercise strips to create a similar colouring, to continue with the exercise building then.
Not quite sure yet, if I'm gonna follow your grouting technique too, as mine seems to have a pleasing result as well (hmmm - at least at first sight) ... ::)
Cheers
G'day all,
Thanks to Marc's advice I was able to create the desired base colour with a single attempt, the necessary Tamiya thinner I forgot to order was replaced by isopropanol/isopropyl alcohol (70 %) without further ado:
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I tried the further colouring on another exercise strip, using Tamiya and Vallejo acrylics. Regarding the upper 4 lines of bricks I applied the colours highly diluted, dabbing them immediately with a tissue. Regarding the lower 4 lines of bricks I applied the colours using dry brush technique. Again I then applied diluted PVAC glue with a paint brush into the joints, scattered the mortar all over it, removing the surplus of mortar first with a bristle brush and then removed with a sponge the greyish haze caued by the joint mortar.
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Cheers
I doubt many people will know you used paper. -- Russ
Great bricks! I like the colors of the upper bricks.
Perfect! Great results!
Like Russ said, I doubt anyone could tell that they are paper.
...now we need to work on that wood. :D
Nice progression of ideas. Success!
Quote from: marc_reusser on May 13, 2014, 03:49:10 PM
...now we need to work on that wood. :D
... you bet ... 8)
G'day all,
Recently I was researching the WWW to find out what kinda logistic solutions hospitals use nowadays to distribute the supply goods. Very often I found so called tugger trains: pallet sized wagons pulled by an electric truck/trolley. These pallet sized wagons have an unified platform to carry wooden pallets, metal pallets, container pallets, pallets with waste containers (with lid) etc. These tugger trains could just as well run on rails ...
I found this concept very convincing, especially as it offers by far more possibilites regarding the material loaded compared to a common bulk head wagon.
Having some leisure time at the moment, I created a new buildup for the wagon: a pallet carrier platform. The bulkheads and the load floor will be left out in future ... different pallets will be made as well (some day) ...
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G'day all,
I developed and built a flat car/pallet car for my hospital supply railway. It is designed to carry a variety of pallets regarding supply, maintenance and waste removal. It is heavily inspired by the so called tugger trains being used in hospitals and commerce/industry logistics generally.
It is totally scratchbuilt using Evergreen styrene sheets, strips and shapes, (some of the latter reworked on my Boehler saw), brass screws M 0,8 x 2 (some of 'em blackened) and Fermatec wheels with resin core, mounted on brass axles, especially made for this gauge on a lathe. The axles will run in ball bearings (1 x 3 mm).
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Cheers
G'day all,
my first modern Feldbahn flat car, heavily inspired by wagons of so called tugger trains, is almost done and already primed with Mr. Primer Surfacer 1000. It ist totally scratchbuilt using different kinds of Evergreen sheets and shapes and brass screws (M 0,8 x 2 mm). The loading area has the dimensions of a Europoolpallet, which makes 75 x 50 mm in 1/16 scale. I'm gonna buils several kind of pallets for this flat car (and the following flat cars). The axles run in real rollerbearings (3 x 1 mm) and the axle-bearings will be inserted in the axle-boxes from underneath. In the meantime I discovered a mighty fine prototype for a similar constructed bulkhead flat car, which has been used around a military plant/fort in Switzerland (Gotthard region) between a terminal and a funicular system.
Cheers
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Perfect craftsmanship, as usual. -- Russ
Nice work, very clean!
G'day all,
Still dabbling, not really modelling ... ::) ... this time because accidentally I discovered a modern Feldbahn bulkhead flatcar in a flickr photo stream, formerly being used in a secret military plant (infrastructure still classified) in the Gotthard area (Switzerland), that I have never seen before ... manufactured by Arnold Neuweiler, Bern. Just in case of increasing curiosity type in the following search terms in your search engine ... "disused underground train svizzera" ... and you'll eventually find 1 oder even 2 pics showing this type of wagon ...
This bulkhead flatcar has special structured shapes at the corners to hold the wooden boards (of the bulkheads), apart from it's very unique appearance in general. I modified the shapes at the corners a little bit, so it's not only possible to slide in the wooden boards for the bulkheads but alongside as well, i. e. to prevent freight from falling off. Therefore I used different (and modified) L-shaped styrene strips. The "wooden boards" are made from card board and are just a mock up to see if it works. The whole bulkhead set-up can easily be mounted on my modern flatcar chassis, as it requires just some minor changes.
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Cheers
I should look through the old family photo albums, my grandfather was stationed in/at the Gotthard Tunnel and the adjacent underground installations. :D
G'day all,
The well-disposed reader may have asked himself: What was going on in the meantime? Well, well, well ... almost nothing, apart from suffering from a lack of spare time and not being very ethusiastic regarding modelling. So the fact remains: half a dozen shelf orphans not even half finished.
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Where do we go from here?
Areas of the styrene of the battery powered critter became yellow, apart from the fact that I don't like some details anymore. Either I can manage a revision or I'm going to build a new one. Apart from the fact, that this
EFAG Akkulok (http://www.feldbahn.ch/fotos/image?view=image&format=raw&type=orig&id=12") at the Feldbahnmuseum in Otelfingen (Switzerland) and this Diesel-Draisine x92 (https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11380_10152969547273678_842490881044136302_n.jpg?oh=9d5ec49893f031de66cfb0854e9310b3&oe=55530B7C&__gda__=1431484345_d3dd2cd2c8677a012c5ba8f9863938da) at the Lilliputbahn (Prater/Vienna) are very tempting too ... ::)
Some more modern Feldbahnwagen (http://www.de.feldbahnmodellbau.de/fahrzeuge-116-moderner-feldbahn-stirnwandwagen-teil/) (bulkhead flat cars) will follow.
Building the (nano)layout is proceeding very slooowly ...
Cheers
There may be a reason you have lost interest in the project. Maybe you can tell it just won't satisfy you when it is done. Try something that inspires you. -- Russ
Take a deep breath - put in storage - and inspire - a wall a pipe and a drain
Barney
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G'day all,
Plastic surgery was successful ... :) ... I removed the front part of that battery powered critter using my Boehler circular saw and razor-sharp cutter.
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Apart from minor damages on some parts, which I had to make two or three times, everything went swimmingly ... but that does not really matter, because this only is going to be the "beta version" ... I guess ::)
Following a recommendation I set the sawblade on 45° while sawing the styrene from underneath, which caused a better results while sharp bending the styrene and after "glueing" these parts using acetone the notch is almost invisible.
The black storage-battery case was just a card board mock-up, which I then used as a prototype building the one from styrene.
I only seem to have some troubles at the moment shooting nice and crisp photos ... :(
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Cheers
About your problem shooting "crisp" photos: Maybe you just need more light. Typical consumer and cell phone cameras are optimized for full sun. -- Russ
Quote from: finescalerr on February 08, 2015, 01:22:09 PM
About your problem shooting "crisp" photos: Maybe you just need more light. Typical consumer and cell phone cameras are optimized for full sun. -- Russ
... thanks for your feeback, Russ ... (that'S what I had in mind too) ... but these shots were taken with a Lumix FZ150, which should IMHO do better ... ::) ??? :P
G'day all,
My version of a modern bulkhead wagon is heavily inspired by a type of wagon, built by Arnold Neuweiler in Switzerland, which was formerly used - even for passenger transportation purposes - at a secret military plant in the Gotthard area.
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This unmodified pic from the Flickr-gallery of user Kecko, shown here with regard and respect to the user defined terms in Creative Commons (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/) shows the prototype:
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The main difference between the prototype and my version is, that the axle-boxes are not mounted at the unserside of the lower frame. The axle-bearings will be in the frame (kinda sub-frame), similar to the wagons formerly serving at the hospital supply railway in Lainz/Vienna. Therefore the lower frame has to be a little higher. Furthermore my bulk head wagon will be a little smaller/more delicate, compared to the prototype. Making wooden boards for the bulkhead is still in progress ... (http://www.de.feldbahnmodellbau.de/modellbautechnik-holzalterungstechnik-2/)
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Geeze a couple of those wagons an old lawn tractor and some track and ................
-Marty
G'day all,
In another Feldbahn related forum I recently discovered a thread regarding the overhaul of a BBU Storage Battery locomotive (http://feldbahn.forumieren.com/t9704-aufarbeitung-bbu-akkulok). This locomotive is IMHO very suitable to scratchbuild a model of it, especially regarding a low tech workshop (desk), lack of (spare) time and occasional limitation of skills.
Only using the accessable pics I build a mock up from card board for checking proportions. Not THAT bad for a start, but I very much would appreciate some basic dimensions to improve on it. I'll glam up the mock up with some colour to raise a better impression what it's going to look like ...
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Cheers
Are you back to work on that project? Good! -- Russ
Quote from: finescalerr on July 11, 2015, 11:54:36 PM
Are you back to work on that project? Good! -- Russ
... yup ...
Ummm, well ... I made some drawings, printed them and glued them on the card board ("fast and dirty solution") so you can get a better impression on how a BBU-Akkulok looks like. Proportion are only estimated, details are not really important yet ... just to make a first impression ...
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G'day all,
Falling leafs ... everywhere! Autumn - hopefully bringing some sparetime which I could spend modeling ... I thought, stumbling accidentally into a kinda "craft punch", producing 1/16 scale maple leafs. I used real Autumn foliage (maple, oak, beech and lime) punching leafs in 1/16 scale. Even they are true to scale and made from genuine foliage, they don't appear convincing yet. May be, it would make a difference to take care regarding the directions of the leaf veins while punching ... or gonna use coloured cigarette paper instead ...
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they look pretty real to me!
Those look very good, and will look even better in larger numbers.
Michael
Great idea!
Sadly no fall colors this close to the equator....
They really look great. They're starting to fall here in Chicago.....Allan
They look great to me!
They will certainly work in piles with a few of your "best" leaves on top. Don't waste time super detailing the lower levels of leaves.
Keep in mind that those autumn colors will disappear soon ...
Cheers,
Volker
Why not model Southern California? You'll only need two colors: brown and gray! -- Russ
Thanks for the kind comments, guys - although it was not so much craftmanship required ... more dabbling ...
Quote from: Chuck Doan on October 26, 2015, 08:15:10 PM
They will certainly work in piles with a few of your "best" leaves on top. Don't waste time super detailing the lower levels of leaves.
... good point!
Quote from: Hydrostat on October 26, 2015, 11:48:05 PM
Keep in mind that those autumn colors will disappear soon ...
I do, but I'll just wait and see how a pile of autumn leafs will develop colourwize ... (may be, some Fixative would help preserve the colours) ... and/or keep at least the brown ones or replace the faded ones by artifical ones made from thin cigarette paper ...
Quote from: finescalerr on October 27, 2015, 12:46:19 AM
Why not model Southern California? You'll only need two colors: brown and gray! -- Russ
I'm afraid you forgot to mention
grime ... ::)
Cheers
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As I had time left I punched some more leafs, arranged them with the paving slabs (http://www.de.feldbahnmodellbau.de/?p=416) and the test-buildung for bricks from cardboard (http://www.de.feldbahnmodellbau.de/?p=641) for a pic. The well-disposed viewer might quickly spot a difference, as I tried to align the leaf vein in the middle while punching ... alas the leaf vein has to be pretty delicate (and not so solid) - otherwise the leaves (again) tend to look too artificial ... but it's not really modelling yet, only dabbling as a start ...
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It is easy to spot the difference and they look a little better. -- Russ
Very interesting, the ones with the main vein and stem look much better to me, that said have you tried cutting them from a part that has no major veins and then add them on with some acrylic paint? that way you could thin them out toward the outer edges, as chuck pointed out a few super detailed on the top would be really sharp, ones eye would then fill in the rest.
Michael
I think you'll ultimately like whole leaves stamped out of cigarette paper better than actual leaves, but some dried, crumbled leaves can make a good base layer.
I need some large-scale (1/16 or 1/12) leaves for a diorama. Can anyone point me a source for
those "craft punches" in a suitable range of sizes? I'd appreciate a link or more.
Carlo
Carlo; I've seen them at Michaels Craft Stores. They have a web site. Not sure what size they are.....Allan
Carlo,
Quote from: Carlo on November 01, 2015, 06:49:18 AM
I need some large-scale (1/16 or 1/12) leaves for a diorama. Can anyone point me a source for
those "craft punches" in a suitable range of sizes? I'd appreciate a link or more.
You are from Italy (IIRC)? Then EBAY would be an opportunity. Choose i. e. the German EBAY and use the keywords "motivstanzer" and "laub" or "blatt" or "blaetter" ... plenty of offers at quite reasonable prices (you have to check size/scale) - might work as well with Italian EBAY and comparable italian keywords ...
Cheers
Thanks, Gerald, but I am an Italian-American, and live in the US. I will try Michaels and eBay too.
Carlo
G'day all,
I had second thoughts on my original idea of a nano-style layout with a partly "disguised" circuit measuring 40 x 40 cm. I still think it would be possible, but I worked out a new track plan. Um,well ... trackplan is a little overdone, as it's only kinda distorted oval on a base measuring approx 60 x 42 cm (yet), having in mind a sculptural layout like Potter & Klayman (http://www.carendt.com/wp-content/uploads/PandK450.jpg) created by Ian Campbell. As I don't like shunting - neither on large nor on small layouts - I'd do without switches, which I'm afraid I won't be able to build proper anyway and prefer a little train slowly trundling around ... making it kinda meditative element ... ;)
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The key to success is whether you can make us think it is NOT a loop. Doorways and tunnels often fool nobody ... unless the scenery or structure design is very clever. Have you thought about how to avoid that problem? -- Russ
Quote from: finescalerr on November 10, 2015, 12:24:42 AM
... The key to success is whether you can make us think it is NOT a loop ... Have you thought about how to avoid that problem? -- Russ
You bet! ;)
Came across this little machine for milling small section of asphalt. Do you see it's potential too, being converted to a small industrial loco (imagine it without these wheels and an adapted driving position)?
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Cheers
G'day all,
I needed a curved track section, to test the intended new radius. So I cobbled an (incomplete) quadrant together (fast and dirty solution) - as expected, the radius is still to tight for a bigger loco and for pushing wagons. Anyhoo ... so I will fall back on my CAT-style forklift truck on rails (http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=2055.0) ... (new version already in progress) ...
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Cheers
Only a minor progress:
I did not like the sub-frame of my bulkhead wagon, so I overworked it and reduced it's height. The rectangular framework of the subframe and the axle-boxes will be glued on left and right.
The upper frame (and bulkheads) shall remain this way. The wooden boards (to slide in the notches) are made from basswood (thickness 2 mm), the ones to slide in alongside are not ready yet. The construction itself is also inspired by motorlorries on rails (Feldbahntriebwagen) as built by Du Croo & Brauns (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3275/3032183616_301acffa2e_o.jpg) or Deutz (7 PS) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/3032209738_db16f479c8_o.jpg).
The styrene construction will be mounted (eventually removable) to a brass frame, soldered together in a pattern from pertinax (manufactured by Frithjof). Unfortunately the brass frame turned out to be a little to long for my purposes (tight radii), so I first shortened and then soldered it together again.
The Feldbahn wheels run in ball-bearings (diameter 3mm) and brass axle-boxes which are actual 1/22,5 scale, but latter will be hidden behind do-it-yourself constructed styrene axle-boxes.
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Happy Easter everyone!
Will the wheels be more visible when you are finished ... so your cars will look more like the full size cars (in the photos about two pages back)? -- Russ
Russ,
Quote from: finescalerr on March 26, 2016, 11:17:18 AM
Will the wheels be more visible when you are finished ... so your cars will look more like the full size cars (in the photos about two pages back)? -- Russ
not as such ... main reason is, that the prototype cars run on 600mm gauge, measuring hardly more (approx. 700 mm) regarding the max. width. My cars will run on 26,7 mm track, representing 430 mm track, so cars with a width of approx. 30 mm will be far to narrow in 1/16 scale. My wagons will measure approx 75 mm (length) x 50 mm (width), which would be 1200 x 800 mm in 1/1 scale, roughly equivalent to an so-called Europoolpalette (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europoolpalette). So the axle-boxes will not be mounted under the subframe, but will be more kinda inner-frame axle-boxes as used at the hospital supply railway in Lainz/Vienna. The brass axle-boxes (in wrong scale) are just to enable the wagon to run really smooth in ball-bearings ... unless I'll find another/better solution ... apart from the fact that I only own milled brass axles for 26,7 gauge and swapping tracks from 26,7 mm (representing 430 gauge) to 37,5 mm (representing 600 mm gauge) is not an option ...
Cheers
G'day all,
It took some time to reconsider my several attempts constructing a modern Feldbahn wagon and finally creating the ultimate, modular Feldbahn wagon concept. All wagons will have the basic dimensions of an Europoolpalette (1200 mm x 800 mm), approx. 75 mm x 50 mm in 1/16 scale. This is going to be a flat wagon, carrying pallets and pallets with box-type frames or stacking frames.
I tried to build it from brass, but failed (again) and used styrene instead (as usual). Seems working with metal/soldering does not suit me. Shortening of brass subframe was necessary to allow tight radii, but the conversion itself was a PIA (but I managed it somehow).
A corresponding bulkhead wagon is in currently in work ...
Cheers
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Neat, clean, and looks good so far. -- Russ
G'day all,
Pottering around with my flat wagon (that one proposed to carry pallets) I needed a pallet for testings purposes. This is a true to scale (1/16) Europalette or Europoolpalette respectively. It's not meant to be weathered or even finescale. I simply wanted something tangible (instead of only imagining it). Now it's time for some progress on that flat wagon again ...
Cheers
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Always easier to imagine with something tangible.
What did you use for the pallet nails? They look good, and I like the random placement.
-Marty
I was going to ask about the nails, too. Are they just small pieces of wire? -- Russ
Looks very good!
The work is very clean ! I like it.
... thanks, guys ...
Quote from: lab-dad on June 08, 2016, 05:06:08 AM
What did you use for the pallet nails? They look good, and I like the random placement.
Quote from: finescalerr on June 08, 2016, 11:03:50 AM
I was going to ask about the nails, too. Are they just small pieces of wire? -- Russ
Guess what! I first used a harder pencil to press tiny dents in the wood and used a softer pencil afterwards to get the necessary coat of graphite, so it'll look like nails ... ;)
And such placement of pallet nails (most common pattern in this case) is required to make the pallets most stable.
Next time I'm gonna use a technique adopted (and adapted) from Marc Reusser explained in his 5x5x7 thread (http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=640.0) (images seem to be missing), using tiny pins (styrene or brass wire) representing nails (apologies for my crappy old picture):
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When images are missing it is because somebody LINKED them instead of uploading them specifically to this forum. As for the nail technique, we also should give Chuck Doan credit. He has mentioned that method more than once. -- Russ
Quote from: finescalerr on June 11, 2016, 12:00:21 AM
... As for the nail technique, we also should give Chuck Doan credit. He has mentioned that method more than once. -- Russ
... for sure - honour to whom honour is due ... 8) ... but I wasn't aware, that Chuck used this technique as well ...
Cheers
G'day all,
I felt the necessity to modify my modern Feldbahn wagon (again) ... the scale may be big, but the radii turned out to be still too tight. The Feldbahn wagon built in 1/1 scale would now be slightly smaller (in length and width) than a Euro-Pallet.
I used a brass frame shortened by another few millimeters and axleboxes from brass with real ball-bearings (diameter: 3 mm). Axle boxes are 1/22,5 scale and appear a little bit tiny – but I don't care. My rolling stock would be tiny in 1/1 scale as well – more comparable with rolling stock for 10.25" or 12.25" gauge than for 2' gauge. And nowadays it wouldn't be any problem at all, to build or 3D-print any axlebox in any scale you want.
The modern Feldbahn wagon is built from styrene shapes, the wooden boards a made from limewood (2 mm). The ,,tin" (styrene) panels can be inserted from the top and will prevent freight from falling off, apart from turning the bulkhead flat car into a kinda gondola.
All parts are not finally mounted yet (just put together), couplings are still missing ... and I'm waiting for Spring to do the priming (outdoors). A second modern Feldbahn wagon (without wood) has already almost been finished. A third one with specially shaped bottom panel (Sattelboden) is in progress ...
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.de.feldbahnmodellbau.de%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F01%2F01-0045-moderner-Feldbahnwagen-P1030414.jpg&hash=1ad0048c0cdad8aa72a754a8624c76b211e56e09)
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Cheers
Very precise & clean fabrication. I like it even unweathered and not quite finished.
I agree with Bill. Also, I like the size of the axle journals. Something larger might not look as good. It is a beautiful model. Acceptable. -- Russ
Excellent work! I like it a lot.
Thanks for the kind comments, guys ... but IMHO this is only kinda fair avarage modelling (not top-notch/finescale .... yet ;)). Nevertheless I'm glad, that I finally created some matching wagons - and that I did not loose completely interest in modelling (generally).
I guess I'm not gonna start any new project, but have the intention to finish this one. It's still going to be a kinda "nano-layout" with a DIN A2 (approx. 60x42 cm) base (change from square to recangular base as Volker and Russ recommended) ... eventually the smallest operating layout/diorama in 1/16 scale - ever ... ??? ;D 8)
As I'm not quite sure anymore regarding the theme of the layout (backyard of a hospital supply railway) - it's going to be a backyard anyway - I kindly ask you for feedback, if you see potential (and/or have additional ideas/input) for any other themes i. e. backyard ... of a winery (is there somewhere a provider for bottles in 1/16?), of a nursery, of a endive or mushroom cultivating farm, a carpenter's workshop (manufacturing packaging material of wood like crates etc.) ... of a cardboard packaging manufacturer ... or else ... ?!
Cheers
No input? Oh, come on ... ::) ;)
This is the second version of my modern Feldbahn wagon. It has a chequered ("metal") base plate and "steel sheet" bulkheads. So the wagon in 1/1 scale would be entirely made from steel (shapes and sheet). The panels (left and right) could be inserted from the top as well.
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Cheers
That one looks great too.
As for the type of RR, I don't know what to suggest. It might help to know why you're less interested in the hospital railroad that you had originally planned. What are you looking for that the hospital RR lacks?
I find nothing to criticize. This one is even cleaner than the previous model. -- Russ
Quote from: Ray Dunakin on January 20, 2017, 09:37:08 PM
As for the type of RR, I don't know what to suggest. It might help to know why you're less interested in the hospital railroad that you had originally planned. What are you looking for that the hospital RR lacks?
Ray, that's a valid question (sorry, that I forgot to mention) ... I'm a little bit in doubt, if the backyard of a hospital could be modelled and looking as attractive as an avarage workshop manufacturing some goods ... and especially regarding the goods going to be transported: Can "clean" boxes (like the ones I already created - please see pictures posted below) look/be as interesting as "old" creates/wood ... or plants/seedlings ... or secondary raw materials (waste management)?
Cheers
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Quote from: mad gerald on January 21, 2017, 12:51:05 AM
I'm a little bit in doubt, if the backyard of a hospital could be modelled and looking as attractive as an avarage workshop manufacturing some goods ... and especially regarding the goods going to be transported: Can "clean" boxes (like the ones I already created - please see pictures posted below) look/be as interesting as "old" creates/wood ... or plants/seedlings ... or secondary raw materials (waste management)?
Gerald,
according to the average modeling stuff there is at the Gn15 community I'd say that exactly your approach brings an interesting touch to it and the "clean" goods might give some nice contrast to a dilapidated hospital backyard. Don't recall the arrangement exactly, but maybe at one side/edge there might be a glimpse of an representative, "official" facade for the visitors and patients? I rather commiserate your choice of gauge, which may give the model some toyish and caricatural touch. I think there haven't been too many 361 mm feldbahn lines in manufacturing industry.
Cheers,
Volker
Quote from: Hydrostat on January 21, 2017, 02:07:53 AM
I rather commiserate your choice of gauge, which may give the model some toyish and caricatural touch. I think there haven't been too many 361 mm feldbahn lines in manufacturing industry.
Volker, just in order to avoid any possible misunderstanding: my choice of gauge (26,7 mm) will represent original 430 mm gauge (quite common in Feldbahn operation), apart from the fact that would be only just 70 mm less than in Lainz (500 mm) ... thanks for your input anyway ...
Cheers
PS. Let's see, if I'll manage it to avoid giving it that toyish touch ... ::)
Gerald, you're right. I ´was thinking in wrong scale but still think this is a very narrow gauge ...
Quote from: mad gerald on January 21, 2017, 03:00:04 AM
PS. Let's see, if I'll manage it to avoid giving it that toyish touch ... ::)
Sure you will. Just jump the shark pool.
Volker
I'd like to add another pic so you'll get a better impression regarding the size and the proportions ...
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Modern Feldbahnwagen Version 3 (under Progress) is a wagon with a special shaped (angular) bottom panel, similar to some ore cars (i. e. the ones Hauk is building at the moment). It's comparable to the little ,,Sattelbodenwagen" (exhibit #41) of the VVM (Verein Verkehrsamateure und Museumsbahn e. V.) collection or the so-called ,,Mistwagen" (car for waste/scrap) in Austria, which are conversions of the cars formerly used at the hospital supply railway in Lainz/Wien.
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For the ultimate versions of my modern Feldbahnwagen (with their slightly shortened frame) the tight radii are no longer a problem: Version 3 (,,Sattelbodenwagen") combined with the CAT-style forklift truck on rails serving as an example
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.de.feldbahnmodellbau.de%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F01%2F03-0017-diorama-hospital-gleisradius-P1030435.jpg&hash=c45609e158d7e3da17911ef9614dcf2eefad7332)
And we are beginning to see some real progress. -- Russ
G'day all,
Even my nano layout track plan had to be modified slightly ... allthough the term "track plan" might be a little exaggerated if you look at this distorted oval ... ;)
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A big part of the oval will be covered or masked by buildings. So it will be hopefully hardly recognizable, that the train only runs around in a circle ... ::)
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Cheers
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Hmmmm, wait a minute ... there seems to be an empty place left in the shelf ... (starts wondering if a micro-layout or at least a diorama would fit in) ... may be it would be a little too tight - but it's worth a try ... (quits the scene, still mumbling, and starts building a card boad mock up) ...
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Another oval? -- Russ
Quote from: finescalerr on March 31, 2017, 11:18:32 AM
Another oval? -- Russ
.... um well ... Easter time - isn't it? ::)
That was a funny answer.
Go stand in the corner.
Russ
Quote from: finescalerr on March 31, 2017, 11:57:34 PM
Go stand in the corner.
...
a corner? In an
Oval? You must be Joe King ... ;)
There you go, egging Russ on for another round :)
Nobody can top that. He wins. -- Russ
Just putting in some colour to make the dummy appearing more attractive and explaning what's the idea ... no modelling yet - only testing, arranging, check proportions, simply "look and feel" ...
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Cheers
Neat!
The worst thing you can do to Russ is egg him on.
I know Easter is coming but this forum is about modeling, not eggs! -- ssuR
G'day all,
I added some details (only 2d-print, no 3D-prints ;D) to get a better impression if the arrangement will match my idea of this micro-layout. I already spotted some things/details I'm probably gonna change converting this mock up into a real micro-layout ...
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Cheers
Looks like it will be a fun little build.
Quote from: Ray Dunakin on April 09, 2017, 05:10:04 PM
Looks like it will be a fun little build.
... you bet! 8)
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A last impression of the once again modified mock up made from gray cardboard and prints ... now I''m gonna start with the conversion. No need to poke fun at the door knob which is located far to low ;D ... the door wasn't printed to scale (just for illustration purposes) ...
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Gerald,
the room above the left entrance looks a bit strange, as flat as it is?
Cheers,
Volker
Quote from: Hydrostat on April 11, 2017, 01:26:37 PM
...the room above the left entrance looks a bit strange, as flat as it is?
Sorry, that my mock up left space for misinterpretation, but that's not an entire room but only a kinda additional rooflight/fanlight/skylight (don't know usual term in english), similar to a dormer window, letting in (more) daylight ... comparable to the ones often used at workshops and industrial buildings with single pitch roofs (rooves) ... example (http://www.bine.info/fileadmin/content/News/2013/Bilder/130522_02_Buenger_Bop_Fabrik_aussen.jpg)
Cheers
Happy Easter!
There are many prototype railways with 10.25" (260 mm) gauge. I'm always interested in corresponding building reports, actually this one (http://www.buntbahn.de/modellbau/viewtopic.php?t=12725) over at the Buntbahn Forum heavily attracts my interest. I simply could no longer resist and built a small wagon in 1/16. This wagon had to be a little bit smaller than the ones I built recently with a prototype gauge of 430 mm. It is supposed to run on 16,50 mm (16,25 mm) gauged track, representing 10.25 gauge. Therefore I mounted an additional rail (between the two present rails) on my test section to get the necessary gauge of 16,50 mm. Rails, track and radius match prototypes. I eventually put my hospital supply railway layout on hold and gonna use my actual micro layout building a ridable (miniature) farm railway in 1/16 scale with a prototype gauge of 10.25" ...
Cheers
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Looks good!
Quote from: Ray Dunakin on April 16, 2017, 04:54:08 PM
Looks good!
Thanks, Ray! Just my humble attempt to catch the spirit of an agricultural tramway on private property ...
BTW: Does anybody know a source for wheels (approx. 9 mm diameter, approx. 4 mm width) suitable for feldbahn purposes?