Way back when I first envisioned this depot, it would have been one of my first buildings on the layout. I used an antiquated 3D modeling program to create a couple renderings of what I had in mind:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FDepotFrame19.jpg&hash=04b489fb20ff6dde0ba3e93b152cc92df6c21a18)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FDepotFrame36.jpg&hash=4a42cdb8742e8366f35aee4064e5a32b9cf1cc1a)
However, at the time I decided that I should wait until had some more experience with structures, before attempting something as relatively complex as the depot. I'm glad I waited, because I know a lot more about what I'm doing now, than I did then. I will be using different materials than I had originally planned to use.
Today I put together a crude foam core mockup of the depot and placed it on the layout, to help me get a feel for how it will look and fit into the town. The center part of the building will be two stories. Both that section, and the west wing, will have peaked roofs covered with Spanish tiles. I decided to add an east wing which will be an open, shaded waiting area. This will have a flat roof supported by arches. Here are some photos from various angles:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5362%2FIMG_5362.jpg&hash=f968784ac5e5676d7fd64d8786574054e07dc496)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5355%2FIMG_5355.jpg&hash=e653ae4df3dec2e37cd6c8a24e91bb1307f18538)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5359%2FIMG_5359.jpg&hash=ff06808022dbb6a127aeed9e4012eca9df7fbe6b)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5360%2FIMG_5360.jpg&hash=7f13a57c12f3324992673b2059bde892c691f15d)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5357%2FIMG_5357.jpg&hash=5fa638fda8cdf9f2d9092bbfdd0323caa53cf757)
What do you think?
Ray,
I think this is going to be a great project to work on.
Your design looks great to start with.
Lowes has some stone sheets that might work well for your outside situation.
They are too large for 1/48th but might work well for your scale.
They are blocks and can be found in the grouting and tile areas.
Ray,
Here is a link to the stone blocks I referred to:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_255450-93840-20-656_1z0z33v__?productId=4351917&Ns=p_product_price|0&pl=1&Ntt=tile
or search the Lowes website for:
Anatolia Tile Split Face Beige Travertine
Nice mock up. Can't wait to see the building begin.
Jerry
I need to pay more attention here. I just noticed the Hotel Torgo. In Dos Manos. Must be fate.
Quote from: Bexley on May 31, 2015, 02:11:27 PM
I need to pay more attention here. I just noticed the Hotel Torgo. In Dos Manos. Must be fate.
tHe MasTeR wOuLd aPprOve! :)
I met Mike briefly, once. I was a courier for several years, and I had to deliver a package to Best Brains. Mike signed for it. When he handed my clipboard back, instead of saying thank you, I said "HAI-KEEBA." He laughed.
Nice start Ray.
I haven't seen that movie, but I know I would enjoy the Mystery science theater version.
Looks to me like Harry Potter meets Santa Fe.
Quote from: Chuck Doan on June 01, 2015, 06:41:52 PMI haven't seen that movie, but I know I would enjoy the Mystery science theater version.
Yeah, I wouldn't really recommend watching it any other way. It's not "so bad it's good." It's more "so bad it physically hurts."
I found the MST version online. I hope that is the worst movie ever made. It was even hard for them to make jokes.
So now I will shudder when I see your Hotel Torgo Ray.
I believe it's the only movie the Mads have ever apologized for.
I got sidetracked a bit into another project:
Recently I needed to build a small wooden shack using Sintra PVC foam board, to be featured in an article I'm writing for Garden Railways. At the time I didn't know where it would fit into the layout. Eventually I decided to put it in the town of Grandt Cliff. Until now the only other structure I'd created for that site was the miner's cabin (featured in the last Modeler's Annual). This will be an old shack which has been converted into a sandwich shop, called Serenity's Sandwich Shack.
The town site is at the base of Grandt Cliff, and was undeveloped. To prepare the site, I had to chisel out some of the rocks and mortar near the base of the cliff. I built up a foundation for the shack, starting with a section of miniature stone wall made of real rock and mortar. I also used some small slabs leftover from a previous project:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5453c%2FIMG_5453c.jpg&hash=65739dbd59efbc8bcfef9cb445922ef5b9b0beae)
Strips of foam core art board were hot-glued in place to make a form, for extending the foundation:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5458%2FIMG_5458.jpg&hash=ee881bd8a497c34f230e1e939887662e50e8062a)
Mortar was poured into the form, then shaped and leveled. The cavity in the foundation is to hold wiring for the building lights. A brass tube acts as a conduit. Another tube provides drainage:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5461%2FIMG_5461.jpg&hash=d2945b964addf3d1023ae3829a7d0860cfadd43c)
Eventually there will be two or three other buildings at this site, including a RR depot. So after pouring the foundation, I also began pouring part of the slab for the platform of the future depot:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5462%2FIMG_5462.jpg&hash=775fcc5e1d7bdbe05af77cae1fe875c1a185148b)
I added a small slab to one side of the shack's foundation. This will be part of steps leading to the shack:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5467%2FIMG_5467.jpg&hash=4a71af7357fe450de3192e66b097d610b8d880a2)
Here's a shot of the unfinished shack, temporarily in place on the foundation:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5470%2FIMG_5470.jpg&hash=f346f6d1dc0579ed2562081deb077f429bcabc94)
A similar shot, with the more work done on the porch. The porch and shack are built as two separate pieces to facilitate painting. They won't be glued together until after both structures have been painted:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5475%2FIMG_5475.jpg&hash=7d8283377be989cc7f226f6982e4519f39515f19)
And here's a shot of the entire town site, located below the Cliffside Mine:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5476c%2FIMG_5476c.jpg&hash=4b2802c53495109edeaa4bb714a2e704c5e4c4e3)
Enjoy!
Very nice !
A perfect fit. Nice Ray.
Jerry
You should probably paint it, though.
Thanks!
I've started painting it. Got the "wood" color done on the porch yesterday, now I'm doing the shack. When finished, the shack will have a worn and faded coat of red with white trim. I also plan to do some signs on it.
That's a good sign .... -- ssuR
Quote from: Bexley on June 09, 2015, 09:06:17 PM
You should probably paint it, though.
Or make the sign read "Tortas de Casa Blanca" :D
Or you could build another and then name them "Dos Banos"......
Well, I was going to try to hold off posting more pics of this until it was finished, but I'm so tickled with the way it's turning out, I couldn't resist. This has been a really fun build!
I've finished painting it, including many hand-painted signs. Still have to add the corrugated metal to the main roof. Also need to add some light fixtures and other exterior details, and glue the porch to the building. Also need to finish the surrounding landscape, and the stairs/path leading up to the building on either side. Eventually I'll build and detail the interior too. Here's how it looks so far:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5562c%2FIMG_5562c.jpg&hash=c5a2cfbbfd502be05ca88788696d14b681c8e1b7)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5563c%2FIMG_5563c.jpg&hash=d192dc776361df04f89ca4dff851e90eefc58797)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5566%2FIMG_5566.jpg&hash=1a895cdf1858d3e37e10040075ee5c05abf200dd)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5571c%2FIMG_5571c.jpg&hash=6c8264811ea2877956677731fe913692ad55ac23)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5567%2FIMG_5567.jpg&hash=9bb9212fb4268676ff98acc118f5c29e2a2f1945)
Enjoy!
That turned out great! Love the signs and the coloring.
Thanks Chuck! I forgot to mention the door and window are Grandt Line parts.
You put me in a dilemma. How can I signalize speechlessness without speaking/posting something?
Aside of this rather philosophical approach to my condition: this is very convincing. The last picture with the blurred background rocks would pass for 1:1 scale, if the building was finished. I like the "clean" hand painted signs as well as the somewhat crooked "freehand" additions and the threatening "EAT" on the wall.
Volker
excellent!
I would be curious to see/hear how you did all those awesome signs!
-Marty
Very nice!! I love the sign writing too, the aged appearance of the wood and roofing, great stuff!
Volker, Marty, John, thanks for the kind words! Much appreciated!
The sign on the top of the front of the building (Serenity's Sandwich Shack) and the sign on the front of the porch (Sandwiches/Cold Drinks) was done with stencils. I laid out the lettering in Pages on my iMac, and printed it onto self-adhesive vinyl. Then I cut out the letters, peeled off the vinyl and placed it in position. I applied the paint using a combination of light, dry-brushing, and stippling. After removing the stencil, I touched it up as needed with a fine brush. Then I painted the dark outline by hand using a good, #0 artist's brush.
The large signs on the sides that say, "Cold Drinks" were tricky. Because of the battens, I couldn't use a stencil. So I used a pink colored pencil to very lightly lay out the shapes of the letters. This was not done to any detail, just very rough forms, like stick-figure letters, mainly to make sure I the size and spacing would fit the area. Then I hand-painted it with a #1 brush, using very thinned down paint and mostly kind of dry-brushing it. The outlines were done as before, with a #0 brush. The saving grace is that I was going for a not-very-professional look for the signs on the sides.
The smaller signs were were supposed to be very amateurish and crude, so I just winged it, painting them freehand with the #0 brush.
One thing that really helps when painting freehand, whether lettering or any other small detail, is that the hand holding the brush should have at least one finger resting against the model. This makes a big difference in steadying your hand.
Especially the mixture of those different kinds of executions makes a difference and tells a story beneath the actual sandwich shack. Idon't exactly remember where it was posted, but there was a picture of an depression time street with wooden buildings and one barbershop after one other. Your model reminds me a lot to this scene.
Volker
Most satisfactory. -- Russ
Wow Ray! Makes me want to wander around there and have a nice cold one.
Beautiful work.
Jerry
Well done Ray !
Thanks!
I wanted to have stone stairs going up the slope to the shack. To do this, I made a form out of foam core board:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5577c%2FIMG_5577c.jpg&hash=2e8eb3c60d33f5b969e95d883282bec0e52598b5)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5579c%2FIMG_5579c.jpg&hash=78594341eb9e3b9adbe7545b86e22253c86df3ab)
Then I used curved tweezers to place small stones in the form, added some 1/4" hardware cloth, and then poured in some thin mortar:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5583c%2FIMG_5583c.jpg&hash=304f61809cf25933e779fffe46dd12de59915ce6)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5584c%2FIMG_5584c.jpg&hash=4f526b1a5d9039031a494783acae084564feedf5)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5585c%2FIMG_5585c.jpg&hash=257cfd9504f1fedf8bf4c4b498cc585f601fdf1d)
The mortar wasn't quite thin enough to get into all the spaces between the stones, but that's fixable:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5587c%2FIMG_5587c.jpg&hash=a1ce0b3bf5af00a543264736b0729a83ee3cde9b)
I rubbed thin mortar into the gaps, brushed off the excess with a wet brush, and after it set I sanded off some of the residue and it turned out fine:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5646c%2FIMG_5646c.jpg&hash=29f006999c6547581f5dd39ef3a84d0e6e49106f)
Here's how everything looks so far. The building itself is almost finished. I just have to add the lighting and a few other minor exterior details. I also have to finish the landscape around the building. And later I will build and detail the interior:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5622c%2FIMG_5622c.jpg&hash=a3d5526a2698e088bbfd6c0bb08a8de323314138)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5634c%2FIMG_5634c.jpg&hash=2e9750a6bd80327e57c3328e3232e9ab0c764ab6)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5643c%2FIMG_5643c.jpg&hash=27b1feb83dc97be699b64a91352141c6d91f5efe)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Grandt_Cliff_Building_2_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5663c%2FIMG_5663c.jpg&hash=b7a7fb71e192dbf690c039d2b9f6c427b1d16eab)
Ray as any Southerner knows, the shack isn't finished until the Coca Cola thermometer is mounted on the wall under the porch.
Yep, that's one of the minor details yet to be added.
Another superb build!
Ditto.
Ray, you really ought to build a Super Dome over the layout to protect all your artistry from global warming.
Russ
Ray, you really stepped up to the plate with this build, sandwiching it in neatly between the track and mountain. Looks fantastic!
Thanks! Here's a new pic...
A passenger train goes by Serenity's Sandwich Shack in the town of Grandt Cliff. High above is the Cliffside Mine:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Photos_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5792c%2FIMG_5792c.jpg&hash=52c73de91f41f5ceb70f48ab477810f9f83fd405)
Love the way you did the stairs!!!! Everything looks awesome! Allan
I just got started again on the depot, but don't have anything to show yet. In the meantime...
Here are a couple small projects I worked on recently. First was making a big batch of new ocotillos to expand the foliage on the layout. I start with florist's wire, which has a green plastic coating on it. I use a couple different thicknesses, either individually, or mixed, depending on the size of the plant I want to model:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Plants_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8156%2FIMG_8156.jpg&hash=68b36874c44997463a5c9d7eaf87775a5a4658a3)
The next step is painting them with gesso. That's the stuff they use to prime artist's canvases. While the gesso is wet, I sprinkle on some fine grain sand available from the craft store. This goes on mainly at the lower end, to thicken the branches near the base. Then they're hung on a wire to dry:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Plants_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8161%2FIMG_8161.jpg&hash=f3b1c91290dd0c958f7ca381c8fc8acb96f3665b)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Plants_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8157%2FIMG_8157.jpg&hash=8e7037adbdda672e3b00f056cd28bd88a6fba9cd)
Next I paint them with a coat of grayish-brown latex house paint. While the paint is wet I sprinkle on some green plastic grit from Plastruct, catalog #GC-104. It is then hung up to dry again:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Plants_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8166%2FIMG_8166.jpg&hash=20eb653b9b867324ebff8521e56605aeaa0a85c6)
I've found that the green grit fades, so the next step is to dry-brush on a bit of green latex paint:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Plants_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8168%2FIMG_8168.jpg&hash=81df09182e97dd84930802dac5756cfe1fa90235)
To finish it off, I cut off the hook used to hang them. Then I paint some of the tips with red latex paint to represent the flowers. Finally the whole thing is given a couple coats of Krylon UV-resistant matte clear. Here are a couple photos of the plants installed on the layout:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Plants_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8183%2FIMG_8183.jpg&hash=c027e7abf17334c906cc488852937cb098f97407)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Plants_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_4543%2FIMG_4543.jpg&hash=60c7db1b16252d1bc5e209a49d34c4fa6af793bb)
The other little project was a test piece. I wanted to see if I could use Sintra to make a stone wall that matches the pinkish rocks on part of my layout. (I'm not sure but I think they may be rhyolite.) Here is a photo of the rocks on the layout, followed by a photo of the test piece:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Miscellaneous_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_3981%2FIMG_3981.jpg&hash=659f8e016875cb1ddb9e6c1ea043c6191b250e67)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Miscellaneous_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9604ac%2FIMG_9604ac.jpg&hash=ee9825007d1fabcca26f03baae146636b3150ffc)
I think it still needs a little work but it's getting there.
The rock wall is excellent!
Hi, Ray,
to me the stone wall coloring looks spot on, assuming there's some conjunctive weathering to come. But: The sandy texture looks a bit artificial at most stones, like something being added. Maybe you could use some very fine dust in addition to blend this to the complete stone? I don't know.
Volker
Very cool - all of it!
I agree with Volker.
What about mixing the texture in the paint?
-Marty
"welcome to Grandt Cliff" - good one!
Ray; looks great! I think the wall should have a bit more deep tone in the cement. More like the upper right area of the wall. Allan
And, there needs to be a sunbathing lizard on the top of it.
So realistic - great stuff and inspires
Barney
Back in May I did a foam core mockup for the Dos Manos depot:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_5360%2FIMG_5360.jpg&hash=d75574a46abfa86eb3b72ef792974a9715d61578)
Now I've finally started to work on the actual model of the depot. First I disassembled the mockup and worked out the size and position of doors and windows for each wall. As you can see by my scribblings this involved some trial and error:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9598c%2FIMG_9598c.jpg&hash=e914665a2ebe07920e0de55cca53d95f61acc9d9)
Then I laid out the final design on a 16" x 20" sheet of 6mm thick Sintra PVC board, and cut it out:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9605c%2FIMG_9605c.jpg&hash=6e9d5c2bbc3c480b78e9dee593ebffcfbaeb4c2a)
Before going any further, I wanted to work out exactly what kind of stone and masonry the building would have. I decided on light tan sandstone in random courses for the bulk of the structure. Then I did a small test piece to see if I could successfully replicate that look using Sintra PVC board. Here's how the test piece turned out. I'm pleased with it:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9612c%2FIMG_9612c.jpg&hash=a0ba8cda8fefa126c4a21f0bc26443cadbb4bb74)
With that settled, it was time to start texturing the first wall of the building. The first step in this process is to lightly sand the surface using a sanding block and horizontal strokes. This removes the sheen, and the fine scratches add a very subtle texture. Next, I used sandpaper wrapped around a dowel. This was applied with a scrapping motion, horizontally across the face of the wall. This added some more prominent scratches:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9616c%2FIMG_9616c.jpg&hash=0b6a21784674258cd60b58167288c1508d89b3f3)
This close up view shows the scratches. Most of them will be obscured by the rest of the process, so they don't have to be perfect:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9617%2FIMG_9617.jpg&hash=6b077ce52be1565537e65217125391a25c5ac86e)
The next step involves tapping on the surface with a rock to give it a rough, uneven texture. For this you need a rock that isn't too rough or too smooth. Here's the rock I used:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9619c%2FIMG_9619c.jpg&hash=83c44e774b63790cf2ba4b1d867e5c74b53c7f4c)
After going over the entire surface with the rock, I used a t-square and pencil to lightly draw a series of horizontal lines on the wall. These will be used as guides when scribing the stone courses. Because I'm simulating random courses, the lines don't have to be evenly spaced:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9624%2FIMG_9624.jpg&hash=4eb3c8c4e59c4b047c4e979f6c02e7f345beebf8)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9626%2FIMG_9626.jpg&hash=63f9f7a8da5fa37ef590f460f4622119abe8df29)
That's it for now, more later. Enjoy!
It looks good already. When you add the stonework, can you lighten the dark stones or apply a wash to tie together the colors? On the other hand the contrast between dark and light may be how your camera processes colors. -- Russ
Time for a quick update!
I began scribing the stones on the first wall of the depot. The stones are scribed using an ordinary, carbide-tipped metal scribe from the hardware store. The tool is pressed firmly into the surface -- with Sintra, you're not really scratching it, you're indenting it. Here are a few photos of my progress:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9645%2FIMG_9645.jpg&hash=01d5460f2e8017940b0b4ec953ec3844cc08a54a)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9641%2FIMG_9641.jpg&hash=1d782e6cedb0a7e3313bb26132beaa2dc2272391)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9634c%2FIMG_9634c.jpg&hash=cafe4dc24622e5597838e930014f73de7af30d3d)
I still have to scribe the upper area of the wall (the second story portion). When this wall is done I have several more walls to do. By the time I'm finished with this building I'm going to be pretty tired of scribing stones!
Ray, the depot stonework is looking excellent. One thing I noticed is that the 3D relief on your test wall looks a bit more pronounced than on the depot walls. Several of the stones on the test seem to stand proud of the rest. Is that just the paint and angle of the lighting or is something else at work there?
Good eye, Bill! That is indeed the result of another step in the process, which I haven't done yet on the depot wall. In fact I won't be able to add those small protrusions until after the walls have been assembled.
Here is something I can appreciate-- modeling with a rock. Could we be farther from 3D printing? I have used Sintra for years, and never considered using its weakest trait for such a perfect finish! Long ago I was looking for a way to replicate rough, rolled armor plate for large scale tanks, and this would have been just the ticket. Did you know that the largest model made for the movie "Titanic" was skinned with Sintra? Another great trick to file away as an "Oh, PERFECT!" solution. Can't wait to see more! DF
Yeah, Sintra is very versatile, and easy to work with too! I've textured it to look like stone, bricks, cast concrete, and weathered wood.
Well, I finally finished scribing the first wall:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8224c%2FIMG_8224c.jpg&hash=bb4cd05688440a4434d12d3eeaff0d978a37e666)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8253%2FIMG_8253.jpg&hash=efc80f2d515510b08ec18c9f1000cc3eca304e7c)
But there are still a few things to do that will give the wall more depth and realism. First off, some of the scribed stones are a bit flat and could benefit from additional texturing. For this, I'll use a small scrap of old patio flagstone:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8235c%2FIMG_8235c.jpg&hash=3cf15bb046c5ae957ef4ee3f3463a2b5f532e322)
Here's a "before" shot of a small section of the wall, showing some of the stones that need additional work:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8232%2FIMG_8232.jpg&hash=ed5e99fd9793b0965fe30e5a4f01a2c6c0c0b18f)
I tapped those areas with the piece of flagstone, and here's how it looks now:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8248%2FIMG_8248.jpg&hash=42eb923e60bc90889c410eb5390d2ceaea100b4c)
Another little trick to add depth is to carve out a few random stones, using a sharp #11-blade hobby knife, as I've done here:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8249a%2FIMG_8249a.jpg&hash=9f57fc0b81eba71a4eb3e127b56e8f5662da5356)
There is still one more thing I want to do, which will extend some of the stones out a little from the surface of the wall. However, I have to wait until after the walls have been assembled. Also I need to scribe some mortar lines in the edges of the door and window openings, and touch up a few cut marks, etc.
That's it for now. Enjoy!
Amazing how much subtle/perfect texture those stones make. Great.... Allan
You really have nailed down that technique. The wall looks terrific. And what really gets me is that your work surpasses most indoor foreground modeling yet everything sits outdoors, roasting under hundred degree temperatures or repelling rain and dew, and probably sits a good ten feet from the closest viewer.
In other words, you've lost yer cotton pickin' mind, Ray!
Russ
QuoteIn other words, you've lost yer cotton pickin' mind, Ray!
He is in good company here!
I am enjoying this lesson Ray and hope to try it someday.
-Marty
Quote from: lab-dad on September 29, 2015, 04:46:48 AM
QuoteIn other words, you've lost yer cotton pickin' mind, Ray!
He is in good company here!
I am enjoying this lesson Ray and hope to try it someday.
-Marty
Don't worry Ray. Guys the men in the white coats just entered his backyard!!! :)
Excellent stone work.
Jerry
Quote from: TRAINS1941 on September 29, 2015, 07:56:52 AM
Quote from: lab-dad on September 29, 2015, 04:46:48 AM
QuoteIn other words, you've lost yer cotton pickin' mind, Ray!
He is in good company here!
I am enjoying this lesson Ray and hope to try it someday.
-Marty
Don't worry Ray. Guys the men in the white coats just entered his backyard!!! :)
Excellent stone work.
Jerry
Obviously rather men with white stones entered Ray's backyard. Small ones. I mean the men.
As Jerrry said. Simply excellent carving and texturing.
Volker
Thanks guys!
Russ, I'm guilty on all charges, except one. Some of my buildings are much less than ten feet from the viewer, and this depot will in fact be only about a foot from the edge of the layout.
I spent quite a bit of time on the second wall today. I got the door and window openings cut out, sanded the surface, applied scratches, tapped the whole surface with a rock, and made a good start on scribing the stones:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9646c%2FIMG_9646c.jpg&hash=4f74e2568470e81dd81bb38b85eb54275dfdb8f7)
Then I realized something... I'd done all this on the WRONG SIDE!
Doh!!!
I had to scrap it and cut out a whole new wall. But I'll save the bad one, and maybe I can cut off sections of it for use elsewhere.
Ray, as they say in such cases, it's all not as a punishment but merely to exercise.
Ray, you'll find good uses for that wall,
perhaps in a parallel,
mirror image universe.
If I had a nicklel for everytime I...
Been there many times and done that soooo many times. Whenever I complain about redoing something I'll think about you having to rescribe all those stones and realize that's what great model makers like you do!!! Allan
I'm glad I am not the only one who does silly things like that.
Ray, thank you - you made my day!
-Marty
a fools errand boy.... ;D
Just checking in after a bit of time off, Very nice work with the sintra Ray, I have used it in commercial exhibit display work but had not thought about using it for wall or ground textures. Thanks for the great step by step on the texturing.
Michael
Hooray! I finally finished scribing the (new) second wall, and got it right this time:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8257c%2FIMG_8257c.jpg&hash=813ba55b9972567f3c27276016feb8052743c3ec)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8261%2FIMG_8261.jpg&hash=37171ac624ac29dc3f83c79c903261c1295a8c25)
Still need to use the X-acto to carve out a few random stones, then I'll go to work on the third wall.
good morning Ray, I tried using your method on some old 6mm Sintra I had laying around, it was very difficult to indent and seemed extremely hard. My question is, does Sintra change hardness over time? is it soft when first manufactured? On the other hand, are your hands of superhuman strength regarding the use of a scriber. ;)
Michael
Quote from: michael mott on October 05, 2015, 09:10:20 AM
good morning Ray, I tried using your method on some old 6mm Sintra I had laying around, it was very difficult to indent and seemed extremely hard. My question is, does Sintra change hardness over time? is it soft when first manufactured?
I don't know, Michael. How old was the stuff you tried? I've only been working with Sintra since 2011, and generally use it up pretty quickly.
Hi Ray the stuff I have is at least 10 years old.
Michael
Hi Ray and Michael,
Just to follow-up with Michael's question. I had the same issue with some of the material that I recently purchased.
That said it works - its just hard to do. Makes me wonder if some solvents have evaporated from the plastic. Maybe a little heat would help...
Love the final work that you have been doing Ray.
Cheers,
Marty Johnston
Progress continues a piece at a time...
On the end wall for the west wing, I drew guidelines on the wall's edges, roughly matching the positions of the mortar lines on the north and south walls:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8269%2FIMG_8269.jpg&hash=9264f7bd973d0e9e53278f84130ced9584ed4db1)
The finished west wing end wall:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8270c%2FIMG_8270c.jpg&hash=5a77788b87b71c0b7c857313e6acee34772b655d)
After the walls are glued together, I'll need to use a bit of filler on the joints. At that time, I can do any necessary adjustments and touchups on the mortar lines across the joint:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8273%2FIMG_8273.jpg&hash=0e1d74224f257597dd1a74763409e8ec16c241fc)
Next I did the west wall of the central, two-story portion of the building. Most of this wall will be hidden by the west wing, so only a small area at the top of the wall had to be scribed:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8309c%2FIMG_8309c.jpg&hash=eae5295da5541b5ebde7d0d7579ffd65974342a4)
That's it for now. Enjoy!
I am impressed by how well you do this Ray, I was very disappointed with it when I attempted to do the same process.
Michael
Michael makes a good point. It is one thing to copy your technique and quite another to draw and scribe credible stonework. Tedium aside, it looks easier than it is. -- Russ
I finished scribing the east wall of the two-story, central portion of the depot:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8323c%2FIMG_8323c.jpg&hash=14bb041afa601d3866b8242dd74d2ed3bd6af34a)
I also created a special piece which will be laminated to the back of the west wing's end wall, to increase the wall's apparent thickness:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8324c%2FIMG_8324c.jpg&hash=3dbca86e728596fb4d94023f787fcaaa326fc80c)
Here are all of the pieces that I've completed so far. These are enough to begin assembly:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8327c%2FIMG_8327c.jpg&hash=6fc4f283f6c3867b8607dba77a80171521f56dfe)
Woohoo! I've assembled the walls and it finally is starting to look like a building! The east wing, which will be an open, shaded waiting area, will be assembled separately. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to build it:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8335%2FIMG_8335.jpg&hash=b49b91fccf042d283cb5eb34da795a01ef12b122)
Here's a view of the south side. I still need to build the bay window:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8334%2FIMG_8334.jpg&hash=1e6c105e52abf329e2e204c9437c2af77206a1cd)
Here's the top of the west wing's end wall, showing the special piece that was added to make it look thicker:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8338%2FIMG_8338.jpg&hash=563d064063ebb0b136c273d02bf1d84d7c9750a3)
A view of the northwest corner:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8342%2FIMG_8342.jpg&hash=3369a1212ceaaf87d6bb2b7b745c60292672fb50)
One of the next things to do, is blend together the mortar lines at the joints.
That's all for now!
That looks really great Ray.
Michael
Remember that wall I goofed up and had to reject? Well, I used the top of it to make this piece, and laminated it to the rear of the south wall:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8344c%2FIMG_8344c.jpg&hash=6d0ce260bb7f0be321afabd0d65a2c949dbef1d9)
Glad you could repurpose it. Looks great!... Allan
I've been working on blending together the joints at the corners of the building. In the past, I used an epoxy putty made by JB Weld, sold under the name Kwik Plastik. Apparently this is no longer available, at least under that name. So I've had to do some experimenting...
First I tried a product called Magic Sculpt. This is a two-part epoxy putty available from art and craft suppliers, and commonly used for sculpting. It's light gray. I applied some to a couple of corners, and after it cured I scribed mortar lines into it. It's a bit harder than the Kwik Plastik, and was a little tricky to scribe. In thin areas in sometimes flaked off during scribing:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8346c%2FIMG_8346c.jpg&hash=ebb2d361e02b696bad2c89e9ad458b4cac577a24)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8354c%2FIMG_8354c.jpg&hash=efb0c86b1082f144b661a42b0770ddd0ee6c9d86)
Next I tried a JB Weld product called "Water Weld". This turns out to be very similar to Kwik Plastik, and may even be the same product under a new name. It too is a two-part putty. It is almost white when cured. It's a bit softer than Magic Sculpt, making it slightly easier to sand and scribe. It also flaked off in some spots, but not quite as badly:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8355cx1%2FIMG_8355cx1.jpg&hash=01aeff5cbe5f37ed73afbbfd7565d7d6d8878955)
The results of both products in this particular application were very similar, but I'd say Water Weld has a slight edge. Neither one is ideal for use on a semi-soft material like Sintra. But considering that these are supposed to be rough, random stones, the defects are not significant and will be pretty well hidden when painted.
Looks pretty good to my eye Ray I suspect that when you give it a coat of paint that it will be hard to spot which side the joint is on.
Michael
I wanted some of the stones to stand out from the wall, to give it more dimension. To do this, I start by gluing thin slices of Sintra to a few random stones. Then I use a hobby knife with a new, sharp #11 blade to carve them. Here are a couple before and after shots:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9648%2FIMG_9648.jpg&hash=4a2760195a50e69956f912f86752034ad3b4b856)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9654%2FIMG_9654.jpg&hash=8b0c67ae5abc4e3d318b82fdb10df87480eef59a)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9649%2FIMG_9649.jpg&hash=2b52f290cf5fdfec948ba61bbb1d3baaff025b66)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9660%2FIMG_9660.jpg&hash=1e445b20095027ba530c97407c0d15ce9fc76055)
Here's the finished wall:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9678%2FIMG_9678.jpg&hash=3e229885ee24de61a113ce2480d1868cab7c6cff)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9680%2FIMG_9680.jpg&hash=66a1848fb090fb5f39241e61e6d1ae3af0ea01fd)
I won't do this to the rest of the walls until after I've added on the east wing.
Ahh, that's the extra step for making some stones stand out. I'd wondered if you added Sintra or some kind of putty, Sintra it is. Thanks, great stuff there.
That is a lot of really nice work Ray!
Ray having tried your method of working I am even more impressed by what you have been able to achieve.
Michael
Very nice and good technique Ray !
Because this depot will sit so close to the "edge" of the layout, a detailed interior is a necessity! However, this is the first building I've made with an interior that is also visible from all four sides. Previous structures had the rear wall against a cliff, allowing me to make that wall removable. (It also cut down on the amount of exterior detailing!) The interiors could be built into a box that slides out the back of the building.
On the depot, the interior box has to be accessible from below. Not a big deal but it does complicate things a bit. For one thing, the way I make and install the windows, they extend into the building slightly. So the box has to clear the windows and avoid damaging the shades/curtains.
I built a recessed rim and spacers in the main structure. The rim creates an overlapping seal to help keep out moisture, as well as giving me something to put the screws into that will be used to secure the interior. Here's a view from the underside:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8374c%2FIMG_8374c.jpg&hash=49ca1df44b4b749f31e5b02e899528f1d7e4c40b)
And here's a view from the top. I haven't installed the spacer on the wall at right yet, because I'm debating whether or not to add a window to that wall:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8371%2FIMG_8371.jpg&hash=1564b462199e8ee7993ca7e6e6dfd3f07b0409b2)
Here's the box which will contain the interior. The ceiling is removable and held in place with small screws:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8370c%2FIMG_8370c.jpg&hash=5607eb13998b201390f095618be46f74a33c71dc)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8367c%2FIMG_8367c.jpg&hash=40baf15405aa29ea4a50dae004ba86ff184ec5ce)
Here's a shot of the underside of the building, with the box temporarily installed. For this shot I only used two screws, instead of the six that will eventually be used:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8364c%2FIMG_8364c.jpg&hash=dc18da78abcbb3fcbb1b05ada1e840f31a359966)
Note that the floor of the west wing (baggage/freight area) is also removable. This room will not have interior details.
Here's a shot looking down from the top. The second floor windows will have closed curtains, eliminating the need for detailing the second floor. Only a light will be installed there, to shine through the curtains:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8363%2FIMG_8363.jpg&hash=e7c24b28771acd6cdd425d78314d3b9e0b1042a7)
As you can see, I've also installed the bracing for the roof of the west wing, and will soon add bracing for the main roof:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8377%2FIMG_8377.jpg&hash=fc6d08612410d9cb999fde5429234ed06844ed02)
I know this is after the horse has left the barn but;
Why cant you install the windows flush with the inside?
Other than my reverse engineering - the building looks great! Cant wait to see it painted!
-Marty
Quote from: lab-dad on October 22, 2015, 04:34:30 AM
I know this is after the horse has left the barn but;
Why cant you install the windows flush with the inside?
I used to try to do that on my earlier buildings... long story short, it's more trouble than it's worth.
The depot sits between two tracks, and one of the tracks curves inward a bit. To accommodate the reduced clearance, I had to taper the east wing on the south side:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8381c%2FIMG_8381c.jpg&hash=ddafceb04a35d1a0324aa49c743a299640b3c518)
Because the east wing is an odd shape, I decided to go with a flat roof and parapet, rather than a peaked roof. I feel this will also give the building more visual interest, and I've seen photos of a couple prototype, mission-style depots that had a flat roof on one end. I put together a mockup of the east wing and taped it to the model to see how it will look:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8379%2FIMG_8379.jpg&hash=e2ad13495997d819d1e48b8ef0e233b516be8c65)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8384%2FIMG_8384.jpg&hash=d4a410c3d69d27f06aaaa1ec83096181988f1e28)
Before I start cutting up Sintra, I'd like to hear what others think of this design for the east wing.
It looks appropriate for depot with that kind of architecture. I have no problem with the appearance or the flat roof. -- Russ
Ray, I agree, the the design of the east wing looks good. Maybe it's just having seen the white walls for awhile now, and liking the way the depot stands out from the background and the hotel, but the east wing could be a different material from the main mid section, say stucco, to emphasize it is an addition when the tourist traffic increased, then it and the main building could be painted white to please the architect so that the two blend together...or not...
Thanks for the input, I appreciate it!
I'm finally making progress on this again, after taking a short break.
About a year ago I found a sheet of 13mm Sintra in the cutoff bin at a local plastics dealer, and I've been holding onto it ever since. I decided to use this to make the arched walls of the passenger waiting area. I don't know if it's because this stuff was old, or what, but it was quite a bit harder than the 6mm stuff I've been using, and was kind of a pain to work with. I had to use a jigsaw to cut it. I also found it more difficult to scribe. It might have been easier if I'd just laminated two sheets of 6mm Sintra together, to get the required thickness. Anyway...
After cutting it out, I taped the plugs from the arches in place temporarily, to hold a pushpin marking the center of the arch. Then I scribed the stones around the arch, using a small metal ruler as a guide:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9685c%2FIMG_9685c.jpg&hash=95ef5b95bb93d1110f5ccc0c7687ae1f239317ad)
When I'd finished scribing the stones on the face of the wall, I used a special tool to continue the mortar lines around the corners onto the edges of the arches. This was just an X-Acto knife, with the edge of the blade ground flat:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9688c%2FIMG_9688c.jpg&hash=97281c217d57f9980ab7770c44d1816d2879e765)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9692c%2FIMG_9692c.jpg&hash=6e99be30c962f1a0b7abd5b53f9ca38346df9dbb)
Here is the exterior side of the wall. It is complete except for some details that will be added after assembly. As you can see, I have changed the shape of the wall's top edge from the original design:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8463c%2FIMG_8463c.jpg&hash=cdfbea326579b2246ec7caa78a13c088e38b2518)
Here's the interior side of the same wall. When I shot this photo, I still had to scribe a few more lines near the top. On the left end, there was no need to include all the scribing since that is where the adjoining wall will be glued to this one:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8461c%2FIMG_8461c.jpg&hash=5b4fa600474c70ae6d28e5ab64a4d59340a2c9a5)
That's all for now. I still have two more walls to do for this part of the depot.
Ray that looks fantastic! you really are a master at this Sintra carving. Interesting to note that you found this stuff more difficult to sribe because it was harder.
Michael
You are really a master at this kind of construction. So I have a question: How hard to you have to push when you scribe? -- Russ
That's terrific stonewwork as usual, Ray, and I like the new roof line.
WOW!
I am definitely going to try this to finish the walls on my machine shop
Very inspiring Ray!
-Marty
Russ, it's kind of hard to describe how much pressure is needed, but generally speaking I'd say "moderate".
On this thicker stuff, which I got second hand, it took more pressure than usual, and also seemed harder on one side than the other. I don't know if that's due to it possibly being old, or what. I'm not even sure if it's Sintra or another brand.
The biggest problem I had with the thick stuff was cutting it. Could not cut it with a knife, had to use a jigsaw, and then it would melt and gum up, partially resealing the cut. The melted stuff becomes very hard when it solidifies.
Another thing about my experiences scribing Sintra... I'm doing it in 1/24th scale, PLUS it's for outdoor use which means I have to put on a relatively thick coat of paint. So I have to go kind of deep. For indoor use or in a smaller scale, subtler impressions would be better, which of course could be created using less pressure.
This evening I spent a few minutes just trying out a very quick test to see how it would be to scribe bricks and stones for a 1/48th scale structure. This took very little pressure. In fact, having gotten used to pressing harder, I had to keep reminding myself to go easy.
That gives me a pretty good idea, Ray. When I scribed paper bricks and boards my finger started to hurt after a while ... from "moderate" pressure! -- Russ
I forgot to mention something in my previous post... When I designed the walls of the waiting area, I used a drawing program to create simple templates. These were printed onto paper, cut out, and then traced onto the Sintra:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8497c%2FIMG_8497c.jpg&hash=74d53c4c10d30efaa53c805c72ba3ad894456db9)
After texturing both sides of the north and south walls, I glued them to the main structure. The joint was not perfect, especially on the angled, south, wall, so there was an uneven gap at the joints. I filled these gaps with JB Weld's "Water Weld" epoxy putty, taking care to press it firmly into the gap. After it set, I sanded it down, and then scribed it to match the walls. Here are before and after shots of the north wall, followed by the south wall:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9694%2FIMG_9694.jpg&hash=cb8710356b17b8eee61c35c2eaed03e549462e83)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9700%2FIMG_9700.jpg&hash=2ed873623b885d11842ecf893d684b3273fcdacf)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9696%2FIMG_9696.jpg&hash=6d3285bafc71a7f3894ddf02d4f1b10140c7da35)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9698%2FIMG_9698.jpg&hash=9d098e567f3ca8441bb82d0b1beaee32b144c060)
Here's how the whole thing looks so far:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8499c%2FIMG_8499c.jpg&hash=a6bafb1bb025c31460a16a43f830d3441e687cee)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8501c%2FIMG_8501c.jpg&hash=62f400ae5c7cf643da37048e823c70242cf6543a)
The base of the waiting area is removable. I scribed 1/2" squares on the floor to represent terra cotta tiles:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8508c%2FIMG_8508c.jpg&hash=a90ed87123cf1191b6a5daca891953c8235715ea)
Small stainless steel screws hold the base of the waiting area in place. The base can be removed for painting, and for easy access to the waiting area interior:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9707c%2FIMG_9707c.jpg&hash=c8b9ab0307c0894d6913451881abf5d1ef02c06f)
Here's a shot of the end wall in progress. I have to align the stone courses to match those at the corners of the north and south walls:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8498c%2FIMG_8498c.jpg&hash=5a5cc46e551c6aa95aa1ac898ffd6f72d27521b7)
That's all for now. Hope you're all having a great Thanksgiving!
Ray you really do have this sintra stone work down to a fine art.
Michael
It is unfair to keep your models outdoors. Also, you should have skipped Thanksgiving dinner so you would have more time to work on the structure. Two demerits. -- Russ
Quote from: Ray Dunakin on November 26, 2015, 04:18:02 PM*snip*
The base of the waiting area is removable. I scribed 1/2" squares on the floor to represent terra cotta tiles:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8508c%2FIMG_8508c.jpg&hash=a90ed87123cf1191b6a5daca891953c8235715ea)
*snip*
That's all for now. Hope you're all having a great Thanksgiving!
What? Square Saltillos? No San Felipe or maybe Arrow & Picket pattern tiles? Tisk, tisk. I would hate to see The Master's face when Torgo tells him about the progress on his new train station :o
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F90to5.org%2F5MM%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2FeditorsPosters%2FManosTheHandsOfFate_1966_TommyMcMorris-poster.jpg&hash=c8305522f056e4be1a65fa2d455b3819fa2d00c2)
*The preceding fairly snarky reply was sarcasm. ::)
Real comment: Ray, your work is always amazing. The detail you get with hand carving Sintra is really impressive. I am sure The Master will be pleased.... ;D
Thanks guys!
Yep, Saltillo tiles. The Master would approve. :)
Another update!
Previously, I had added some protruding stones on the west end wall. These were made by gluing thin strips of Sintra to random stones, then carving them. But I had to hold off on giving the rest of the building this treatment until I'd finished the east wing. Well, now that is done, so I added the protruding stones to all the walls. Here are a few shots, with the first one showing the strips prior to carving:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9713c%2FIMG_9713c.jpg&hash=be49ef18db8fbc8dc16e30261d49673571f7439b)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9718c%2FIMG_9718c.jpg&hash=b4fdaf95ba8eb03ea1aab0f2da5b06724c7af81f)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9723%2FIMG_9723.jpg&hash=b2bc3706198ecb71156808eea05242d338faf055)
Next I made the balconies that will be on the north and south sides of the depot. These were made from pieces of 6mm and 4mm thick Sintra. The following two photos show the underside of the balcony, so you can see how the 4mm layer was cut at an angle:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9716c%2FIMG_9716c.jpg&hash=aa39c0e0838f5c09531fcd9bb8c0c65aedf4532e)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9717c%2FIMG_9717c.jpg&hash=32d60c02a9ac02ceedc3d8c6af8292809d4bde8e)
Next I added the roof to the west wing, and to the center section of the depot. I still have to do the roof on the east wing. I also began construction of the bay window:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9725c%2FIMG_9725c.jpg&hash=61d1db0eb426cb2d713d05f2ae24865c5600424f)
And here are a few shots of the depot as it currently looks, temporarily in position on the layout. Sometime soon, before I get much further with the construction, I need to fill in the gap in the foundation around the base of the building:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9728c%2FIMG_9728c.jpg&hash=56e9579b0d4cd9e512095e1f10369abeeccb8b7d)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9741%2FIMG_9741.jpg&hash=5f6ad2e568a946ba5656e78fee76be58d43f9144)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9734%2FIMG_9734.jpg&hash=f502dbdf8d5e9e00821360dafd95470e808340e0)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9738c%2FIMG_9738c.jpg&hash=ed268582790dbb0ddf24ed91a5d3c9fe031ab723)
That's all for now. Thanks for watching!
Ray it sure is looking good.. Your work with that Sintra board is unbelievable.
Jerry
Yeah, what he said. And the last two photos are very good, too. -- Russ
Great work, Ray. I like how you did the protruding stones, and also like those low angle views. That's going to be a nifty addition to the RR.
Hey Ray,
Do you do "commissions"? ;D
-Marty
Your patience at getting all this stonework believable is certainly paying off, personally I am looking forward to seeing some colour.
Michael
Ray, always nice to see your construction progress!
As are the parts weatherproof?
Thanks, everyone! Yes, the materials are waterproof.
Here's how I filled the gap in the foundation...
First I taped waxed paper to the lower part of the building. Then I added a few layers of masking tape, so that the final opening in the foundation would be just slightly larger than the building itself. Next I coated the masking tape with petroleum jelly, and placed the building on the foundation:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8511c%2FIMG_8511c.jpg&hash=af1cf0b4111a27b9e9c3b99d4eb7980c9e568e7e)
I used a blend of high strength mortar mix and vinyl concrete patcher. This was spooned into the gap around the building. I used an old zoo membership card to spread and smooth the mortar, however a scrap piece of styrene sheet will do. I couldn't get it as smooth as I wanted but it's close enough:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8513c%2FIMG_8513c.jpg&hash=d238c1c8592d19b265921756f5f08ba53305e53e)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8514c%2FIMG_8514c.jpg&hash=56dafad29ca5b53dcfeee2b19acb2387ce736a95)
As you can see, I just barely finished by the time it got dark. Due to the cold, the mortar set very slowly and I had to wait several hours before removing the building from the foundation. Even then, the mortar was still not fully cured, and a small section broke off. However, this will be easy to repair. For now I just set the broken piece back in place:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8515c%2FIMG_8515c.jpg&hash=ab6bc958a9d35bcb953bfe614dbedfbcbbaa67b5)
I sanded the top of the foundation to get it a little smoother. It's still not perfect but it will do. Here's how the depot looks with its new foundation:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8516c%2FIMG_8516c.jpg&hash=c6aeafd4baff5c3f779f4624c132ea7ef97f847f)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8517%2FIMG_8517.jpg&hash=958cfe1ca023e7353aba94ec1a602debd7c270ef)
This close up shot shows what a great spot for photos the depot will be when it's finished:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8519%2FIMG_8519.jpg&hash=879e98d63e965433d9d28e6057e22b2dcaf0444b)
I've also added lintels to the door and window openings. These were made from strips of 1mm Sintra:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8522%2FIMG_8522.jpg&hash=bae5024a020c48c6e7311c657e10973f09e73e96)
And I've started adding the capstones (I think that's what they're called) along the top of the walls, beginning with this wall on the west end:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8523%2FIMG_8523.jpg&hash=8d8fe575c81125e90aae0ee5e01d365c3d6b0f26)
That's it for now. As always, thank you for your comments and for following along!
Just very impressive Ray! Need to get the roof on before El Nino!
At the rate el Niño is approaching I think Ray will have more than enough time. Beautiful work. -- Russ
Ray another gem! You're getting well versed in both modeling and construction materials.
Amazing work Ray!
Michael
The lower portion of the building will have a sort of wainscot of stone blocks. I started on this by adding a strip of 1mm Sintra along the top of this area:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9748c%2FIMG_9748c.jpg&hash=1c8a61b170010fe4611851467d780f3c1b264da0)
Back when I made the first building in Mineral Ridge, I had made a mold of hand-carved stone block pieces, and had cast a lot of extras for future use. (For details, go here: http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/IRR_Mineral_Ridge_1.html (http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/IRR_Mineral_Ridge_1.html) )
Anyway, those are what I'm using on this project. I'm just gluing them to the Sintra. Some are cut to fit, or to create corners:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9760c%2FIMG_9760c.jpg&hash=ed3061af5332662cb778dbb44ad4dbd44f3715b0)
Then I fill any gaps with styrene putty, let it dry, and carve off the excess putty. Here's how it's looking so far:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9769c%2FIMG_9769c.jpg&hash=a2a6edc27d878433a88d69981355e620cf0a463c)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9776c%2FIMG_9776c.jpg&hash=973144f850edc07e93776422b8deb8722426f303)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9783%2FIMG_9783.jpg&hash=8b2d8873c8d5eefa967cc7eed3666ee3f37d8a92)
I'm almost halfway through making the wainscot.
Well, the quality certainly hasn't declined. -- Russ
Ray,
already at this state the building's textures look so realistic. You really grooved that sintra carving. I'm following along every of your posts and am looking forward to the painted building.
Cheers,
Volker
Just excellent Ray! As the others i am enjoying this.
-Marty
With all that excellent work it ought to be Tres Manos Depot. It just keeps getting better.
Ray:
In your how to do for the stone work, which you linked, the plastic I have used is the Mylar packaging from potato chips and other salty snacks. With an open back mold like yours, a jolt of vibration from a sabre saw to jar the bubbles loose and then the Mylar sheet under a piece of plate glass with a weight on top and things are beautifully flat.
Thanks, guys!
BTW, yesterday I came home and discovered water seeping out of my mountain:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Miscellaneous_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8524%2FIMG_8524.jpg&hash=f6a2b7d2567df6fc001dc9f13bc178e7a93f91e0)
Apparently the neighbors behind us, on top of the hill, have a leak in their sprinkler system. I told them about it and they said they'd get someone to find the leak but so far that hasn't happened, and it's still leaking. I'm a bit concerned because I don't know how long that slope can hold up with water constantly flowing through it, and we've got rain coming tonight.
Ray, Hope the water get stopped before problems develop!
That rain is tangible evidence of how the weather patterns have changed. In the 1990s rain always swept south and my area would get much more rain than Ray's, 100 miles south of us. The radar map tonight shows rain over San Diego but the chance of showers here is zero. That is because a few years ago storms began coming up from the south and now our area gets less rain than Los Angeles, Orange County, or San Diego! -- Russ
They finally got someone out to fix the leak yesterday, and now everything is drying out.
Thats good news ray!
Has the flood advisory been lifted for the town?
The depot is just stunning!
-Marty
hi ray
having a look at your landscaping i looks really solid-is it just loose fill or a solid base.
cheers kim
Quote from: 1-32 on December 21, 2015, 12:19:10 PM
having a look at your landscaping i looks really solid-is it just loose fill or a solid base.
Some of the front edge of the layout is on fill, the rest is very solid, old seabed. Also, there are concrete retaining wall blocks under a lot of the rock "mountains".
civil engineering in the back yard.if the a structural blocks they would work very well.cheers
I finally got a little modeling time the past few days, and the depot is progressing nicely...
Adding the blocks to the pillars was kind of tedious due to the need for custom fitting many of the blocks:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9803c%2FIMG_9803c.jpg&hash=83fd911d256e1289c10dd18b5767203897dd6b4d)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9809%2FIMG_9809.jpg&hash=d888032fb7d361217f94223bae815f3e45a0e612)
After I finished the pillars, then I installed blocks on the south side of the depot:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9820%2FIMG_9820.jpg&hash=bca5c550516e5f68c3701912e3052dd19c35dc4f)
With the blocks finished, I could finally put the roof on over the waiting area. I started by gluing styrene strips on the inside of the north and south walls. These were sloped just slightly towards the end, for drainage purposes:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9815%2FIMG_9815.jpg&hash=1e9d10f35150ab9dde4589c28d3182cf927cf098)
The roof was cut from 4mm Sintra sheet, and styrene rafters were added:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9811c%2FIMG_9811c.jpg&hash=187708e658eeaf141488e14d623ae855bbbada26)
Then the roof was glued in place. I added short strips of styrene between the rafters, at each end:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9818c%2FIMG_9818c.jpg&hash=30ba72f06d451c111eaad364569cc2402446a0a1)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9849c%2FIMG_9849c.jpg&hash=0f1f2fc7d7f4921b1c38ce61841e653033000327)
The terra cotta tile floor was made to look less perfect, and more natural, by carving cracks, pressing in irregularities, etc:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9824%2FIMG_9824.jpg&hash=42aa7826accecd86bb32560ad5414d8003037c68)
I also finished adding the capstones along the tops of the walls. These were mostly made of 2mm thick Sintra strips which were scribed, then bent to fit and glued in place:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9839c%2FIMG_9839c.jpg&hash=efa0c7337ad5078afa9405355a85a773537c8d11)
I added a few other details too, such as the rafter "tails" under the eaves, and support beams under the balconies. Here's how it all looks so far:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8538c%2FIMG_8538c.jpg&hash=c246bca531c046abe73442dab72d2766a0e0d1e1)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8540c%2FIMG_8540c.jpg&hash=8cdbfbe8991700b0b987db6d7e903398422aba76)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8544%2FIMG_8544.jpg&hash=ae728b91ce135aa5572d21db4dc9889c40f4f213)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8547%2FIMG_8547.jpg&hash=f246e9bfa6f20304247c004a4de2f1fdf2dfdc9c)
I installed two styrene tubes to drain the flat roof over the waiting area:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8550c%2FIMG_8550c.jpg&hash=6473b9f4f32c4a3de0901ea27449a4ac21fc52b9)
The foundation on the south side needs some work. Some parts aren't level with the floor of the depot, and there is a large crack that needs to be filled with mortar:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8554%2FIMG_8554.jpg&hash=3f5e9b9fe0ad5b750ce9acf16275f4a58a4a1879)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8555%2FIMG_8555.jpg&hash=2194b259dc08802acdc8213794d52bb61675f217)
At the west end, I need to extend the foundation to create a sidewalk around the end of the depot:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8551%2FIMG_8551.jpg&hash=8935224e8bd41689ff158f8a6828a718799705db)
I'm using some large, fancy brass buttons to represent decorative concrete castings on the depot:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9840%2FIMG_9840.jpg&hash=28e8b232a387d1c559a1507063a5556c6342f9fa)
Here's one with a quick coat of concrete color paint, just to get an idea of how it will look:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9843c%2FIMG_9843c.jpg&hash=1aa316ab56ab330bffdc96d8f8b6bfdb76e49367)
I was going to work on the Spanish tiles for the roof next, but I want to try casting them in resin and my mold compound has gone bad, so I have to wait to order some more. In the meantime I'll work on making the doors and windows. I still need to make the interior details too.
Basically quite satisfactory at this stage. Any serious criticism would be unjustified. -- Russ
Ray, More really well done fabrication! Happy New Year!
Ray,
I saw your last post after Russ' answer and so the first picture I faced was the 'concrete casting' and I thought 'oh man, how did he carve that out this clean?' :D. Very clever and convincing solution. For sure we're watching an(other) artwork come to life. The drain tubes will give reason for some nice stains, I think ...
Happy new year!
Volker
It keeps getting better and better......Allan
Hi Ray
I like a lot your work with that Sintra board. But those sandstone blocks on the lower portion of the building are a real eye-catcher. Thank you for the very inspirational link to your homepage!
Without a coat of putty on the face of each block your technique could eventually be used for rough-hewn limestone blocks, as they are common in my area.
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi240.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff181%2FPeter_T1958%2FWestlake%2520Publishing%2520Forum%2FRundumsHaus%2520005%2520Klein_zpsat2rnihs.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=7303827e01d85c94afddacb7993c01c647de3336) (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/Peter_T1958/media/Westlake%20Publishing%20Forum/RundumsHaus%20005%20Klein_zpsat2rnihs.jpg.html)
I will save this on my harddisk for future projects!
Peter
Thanks for the comments, everyone!
I got a little work done making doors and windows. On the freight doors, I started by scribing planks and wood grain onto pieces of 4mm Sintra:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9851c%2FIMG_9851c.jpg&hash=515069eb122f6e510433fbcf1477f02dde1b0e41)
The trim was built up using styrene strips. Here's one of the finished freight doors temporarily installed on the building:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9865%2FIMG_9865.jpg&hash=43fc2a5b36a4b7da0dee82ff196a8ef1fac634bc)
Next I made the small windows for the west wall of the baggage/freight room:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9869c%2FIMG_9869c.jpg&hash=1452cc066bd340296da70af26785cc48ea435ef6)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9874%2FIMG_9874.jpg&hash=9df561c5c461611284ce29e1d2f605441fdb637d)
The windows for the main part of the depot are a bit more involved. My standard method simulates the appearance of a sash window, but uses a single piece of glass. I start by putting together the frame that fits into the opening, then add the "bottom" layer made from wider strips. The sash details are then added:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9877c%2FIMG_9877c.jpg&hash=af0101ec06184a529fb72e9adb60dc4a3ac06eb4)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9880c%2FIMG_9880c.jpg&hash=fdd85e0e81da1cbf92536beadb8e32c2844283b4)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9889c%2FIMG_9889c.jpg&hash=b6ed3d36a730684cf5cc112db4a56723b1f87790)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9892c%2FIMG_9892c.jpg&hash=4c043ec8727d33cac1b73c43a08f87f625dee686)
And here is one of the finished windows, temporarily installed:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9898%2FIMG_9898.jpg&hash=208084d81dfcddabd6a582f5e76d1af98f844fb1)
Got a little more done...
The doors were built up from styrene strips, in much the same way as the windows:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9906c%2FIMG_9906c.jpg&hash=b6bf8b60ea1166c345584557074607de8298fccc)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9912c%2FIMG_9912c.jpg&hash=8047f97ac40a7f144c74981a62c3cdba81115588)
Here's one of the doors temporarily installed on the building. I haven't added the doorknob yet:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9922c%2FIMG_9922c.jpg&hash=09dfd1aaa0147eb51a1dc59b20e8f32fcba147ad)
I added the structural components for the bay window:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9917c%2FIMG_9917c.jpg&hash=75fc0c3dbb44a523c11ff27723b9b3cf4a0e14ec)
The window frames were built separately. Here they are temporarily installed:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9928c%2FIMG_9928c.jpg&hash=6061dd4622730f6f1d7a31a509833683e333c48c)
The silicone molding compound I ordered arrived yesterday, so it looks like I'll start work on the Spanish tiles next.
Ray, your work is always so neat and clean.
Gordon Birrell
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gordonbirrell/
Quite satisfactory. -- Russ
Ray, This is all excellent. A pleasure to watch progress.
The next stage of the project was a bit of an adventure...
I made some Spanish tiles using 7/16" (.438") diameter styrene tubes. I marked lines on the tube lengthwise, dividing it evenly into thirds. Then I scored these lines with a sharp hobby knife. I used the extruded aluminum rail on our patio door as a guide to draw and score the lines. Then I cut the tube into 3/4" segments:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9936c%2FIMG_9936c.jpg&hash=47dd6b2c4905f10f911bb21214c61d7b5387b022)
After sanding the ends of the segments, I snapped them apart along the scored lines. This gave me three tiles per segment, each about 3/8" wide:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9940c%2FIMG_9940c.jpg&hash=99a6d823fad4ff25b4bbea51c97bdfab749df04d)
Next I sanded the edges to a slight taper, making them narrower at one end:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9942c%2FIMG_9942c.jpg&hash=ba5065e459fa176f4b1816f197460cd41de8a55d)
Now, I could have just gone ahead and made all of them like this. However, I wanted to try making a mold and casting them in resin. Although the shape is simple enough for a one-piece mold, the tiles are so thin that it's not possible to pour the resin in and get all the air out. So I would try using a two-piece mold.
I built a small box which is held together with screws. Most of the box was made from 6mm Sintra. Only the top piece is styrene:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9945%2FIMG_9945.jpg&hash=279b6b4681ce726f85458382f186b4a823cd733b)
The tiles were glued to the inner side of the styrene top, using a solvent:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9947c%2FIMG_9947c.jpg&hash=b587904e1356b64fb33959e3552dc9457044970c)
To make the first half of the mold, I had to fill half the box with sulfur-free, plasticine clay. I held a piece of Sintra against the tiles to support them while I pressed the clay around them. I had set the clay in front of our small, electric space heater for a few minutes so it would be soft and supple:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9953%2FIMG_9953.jpg&hash=607ee8dcc94788aca2cedd2187e5650ce34568ab)
Then I used the blade of a small screwdriver to press tiny bits of clay into the gaps and smooth it around the tiles:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9954c%2FIMG_9954c.jpg&hash=b152102e009f1e481799030d71a763feb33fbe5d)
The styrene top was secured on the box, with one side open. Then I finished filling the box halfway with the clay, again using the screwdriver blade to smooth it:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9958%2FIMG_9958.jpg&hash=272801cfea31816663811929cb5d122b8f7b1cef)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9965c%2FIMG_9965c.jpg&hash=f84fa517a1cf5958f58fb1313d7f833cf8ea0f35)
I used the end of a paintbrush handle to press small dimples into the clay. These will form "keys" in the silicone to aid in aligning the two halves of the mold:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9971c%2FIMG_9971c.jpg&hash=083a2af534797f46821565b7f463278202efdcb0)
I taped the corners of the box to prevent any possible leaks, then filled the box with silicone molding compound. (The brand I use is Oomoo 30.)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9980c%2FIMG_9980c.jpg&hash=ff6d5df0d96c63a1f158f5c77e0b12298fffb52f)
After the silicone had set, I removed the bottom and one side of the box so I could access the clay. The clay easily pulls away from the mold, especially if it's not warm:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9984c%2FIMG_9984c.jpg&hash=7115b604a5020a785babed3cc9ba535fbb364582)
I cleaned out all bits of remaining clay, then replaced the bottom piece of the box. Next I brushed petroleum jelly onto the silicone, thinning it a little with paint thinner. It's very important to cover the silicone completely to prevent the two halves becoming one. Then I poured in the second layer of silicone and let it set:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9990%2FIMG_9990.jpg&hash=ba73e36b278c6e50ce8c6dc43687d3746c34f188)
After the silicone had set, I disassembled the box and pulled apart the two halves of the mold. These were coated with a mold release spray that I bought at Michael's (craft store). The spray was allowed to dry:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9992c%2FIMG_9992c.jpg&hash=3b233e01ee6ed059d9fedae6dabd960af6a8e471)
The resin was dribbled into one half of the open mold. The mold was then closed and quickly set upright. I used two bricks to keep the halves of the mold pressed together. Extra resin was poured over the top to replace any that leaked out. This method worked, but it's very messy and wasteful, getting resin all over everything. It also required a few tries to get the best results. After an evening of making castings, I had about 80 useable tiles.
The cast tiles had a lot of flash that had to be sanded off, as seen on the left and middle tiles in this photo:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9997c%2FIMG_9997c.jpg&hash=720f152c97297959b1efd42b057d38252fa6fdf5)
Here are several tiles after sanding:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_9996c%2FIMG_9996c.jpg&hash=9c955addb62dcdb47cc4b457062a217e90c70be8)
Sadly, I came to the conclusion that although the tiles could successfully be cast, the process was too slow and labor intensive. I can make them individually from styrene tubes just as quickly, if not quicker, and with a lot less mess and waste. Which is a real shame, because that two-part mold sure turned out nice. But at least it provides a good "step-by-step" on the mold-making process.
Always look forward to your updates Ray as there is so much to learn and enjoy from them.
Very occasionally I feel I can contribute to your builds .......... And in this case for your tiles can I suggest you consider the method Pete Hamann used for his 1/35 Spanish house.
Pete, first of all made the 2d shape of the tile out of brass strip ( like a cookie cutter). Then rolled out a sheet of modelling clay , cut out the tile shapes with the "cutter" and then before clay had hardened draped them over some tubing to get the curvature on the tile.
Now think Pete used one of those air hardening clays , with your outside use that type of material might not be up to the job but either the clay you can bake in the oven or one of the epoxy type (Milliput) would be up to the job
Pete is on FB and sure his technique is shown there in one of his folders
Alternatively, maybe one of us could draw tiles for you in 3-D CAD and you could print them. And I'll bet somebody else also comes up with an idea. -- Russ
Ray, As I was reading along on your very through S-B-S description of casting those tiles, a little voice kept saying 'that looks like more work than all the effort to make them individually. BUT... the process was very informative and useful in the future. And, it's the extra work you're willing to do to fabricate details to look like they're supposed to that makes your models such a pleasure to see!
What about doing a "row" of shingles? overs and unders for lack of a better term?
-Marty
Thanks for the suggestions, they are all appreciated. At some later date, I would like to experiment with molding and casting several rows at a time. But for now I'm just going to make the tiles individually from styrene tubes, combined with those I've already cast. This project has already taken much longer than I'd planned, and I need to get it done.
I think the problem with 3D printing is that I need many hundreds of tiles, enough to cover over 150 square inches (plus ridges). Since the tiles overlap end to end and side to side, that's a LOT of tiles. Probably would be very expensive to print.
The clay-and-cookie-cutter method is something I'd considered, but I think it would probably take more time and effort than what I'm doing now.
Ray, I always like your job. The windows and the doors are beautifuls !
Thanks!
After spending a few days cutting up styrene tubes and turning them into Spanish tiles, I was ready to start gluing some to the main roof of the depot...
I'm using Dynaflex 230 paintable sealant to secure the tiles to the model. Naturally, the concave, "bottom" rows of tiles must be put on first. I began by gluing a single tile at the beginning of each row, in order to test that the spacing was correct. I determined that spacing them on 1/2" centers would be just about perfect:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0017%2FIMG_0017.jpg&hash=238d1270073f692ddbe39106c3d41283d36a5601)
The bottom rows must be placed with the narrow end of the tile facing "downhill" on the roof. I goofed and did the first row, on the right, the wrong way around. Since it's on the end and not very noticeable, I just left it that way:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0019%2FIMG_0019.jpg&hash=92ce55c18585b18b6b176be5aaec5ca8f6503d9d)
After all of the bottom tiles were glued in place, I left it to dry:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0023%2FIMG_0023.jpg&hash=632e9d8cdf01c4eaa5f0455e61c5ed66e0acdbd9)
Then it was time to add the top rows of tiles. First I used more Dynaflex 230 to fill the spaces between the bottom rows. I only worked on 2-3 rows at a time:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0025%2FIMG_0025.jpg&hash=a257c40d5a88a7cba6a0a6ce34efca4d88249a8d)
Each of the top tiles was partially filled with sealant prior to placing it on the model:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0026c%2FIMG_0026c.jpg&hash=ac51e8659bee3cb1cc04cb63ea4967cca74843f0)
The top tiles are placed with the narrow end "uphill". Excess sealant can easily be cleaned off with water and a small, cheap, craft paint brush:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0031%2FIMG_0031.jpg&hash=a8a412b6f4ab422c500831be1c36839c55406940)
This side of the roof is now complete. It took 200 individual tiles for this. I figure in total, it'll take at least 1000 to do the whole job:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0032c%2FIMG_0032c.jpg&hash=feb22baf338a94c5750d0bfceadca7fee043eb7c)
One of the better tile roofs I've seen. -- Russ
you just have to have ideas.
Great idea, thanks for the show.
Looking good, Ray.
Ray; as always a great learning process fo me.
Does anyone know how much this might cost if done 3D?....Allan
Thanks, guys!
I finished putting tiles on both sides of the main roof, and capped the ridge. The gaps under the ridge tiles were filled with Dynaflex to simulate mortar:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0037%2FIMG_0037.jpg&hash=2f2bce29bd7ad165bb8c1d49e83445ec93522aab)
I managed to tile most of the north side of the baggage room roof, then ran out of styrene tubes and couldn't make any more tiles for a while. So while I waited for an order of tubes, I went to work detailing the interior. I built some stairs out of 4mm and 1mm Sintra, plus some .020" styrene for the baseboard. Here's a shot of the stairs under construction:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0038c%2FIMG_0038c.jpg&hash=51c1fd88d85cb21ccaa622494c4d5cfbe28fec91)
A few years ago I bought some 1/24th scale balusters from a dollhouse supplier, and put them away until I found a use for them. Much to my amazement I was actually able to find them now that I needed them. I drilled a hole in the bottom of each, and glued in a short piece of brass rod:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0042c%2FIMG_0042c.jpg&hash=de97073640b4226a42c305d81f0c6e5d3e4846d9)
The handrail was made from a 1/8" styrene tube. I sanded two sides of it flat, and plugged the end. Then I drilled holes into the underside and fit it over the tops of the balusters. BTW, the floor is a photographic image printed onto self-adhesive vinyl:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0045c%2FIMG_0045c.jpg&hash=6b8d5e23f23383ba55f1ee3bb607bd6b9076d455)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0047c%2FIMG_0047c.jpg&hash=c26bed07238d05e690913b1058f93e89782022f5)
After I built the stairs I sprayed them with white primer, followed by a very pale, yellowish color to match the walls. When that dried I masked it to paint the dark trim color:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0054c%2FIMG_0054c.jpg&hash=a22ca868d1d185fda117862e295bc5130e9473d3)
The interior walls will have wainscot. These were made from .020" thick, V-groove styrene sheet, with trim made from styrene strips. This one is designed to fit the stairs. The wainscots were not glued in place until after they'd been painted:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0056c%2FIMG_0056c.jpg&hash=efd4657fc8842e7e46a6ea7a92acfbc6f5692d24)
Here's how the room looks so far. The stairs are finished and painted, though not yet glued into place. The wainscots and other trim have also been painted and installed:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0061%2FIMG_0061.jpg&hash=f11bb05761061cfaf4ddb5b5a94c0d8ff26d18c0)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0070c%2FIMG_0070c.jpg&hash=5fc9f1c300af14dfbcd5eb2c256e98a9e2300a6f)
I still have to make the crown molding, the ticket counter, and other furnishings.
... whoa! :o (regarding the Roof tiles) ... wowzers! :o :o (regarding the interior) ...
BTW: Had to look-up the term "wainscot" ... :-\
Ray, that's going to be another terrific building inside & out! The tiles look great and the interior is shaping up really well.
All such a great job!
Your very clever Sir!
You need a fancy Newell post on that landing ::)
Marty
Ray if I didn't know it was a model...
Just beautiful work and detail.
Jerry
Ray,
a little bit of aging, some trodden stairs ... and you can not distinguish from the original!
Always nice to watch your great progress again!
Frithjof
I keep learning from Ray!.....Allan
Satisfactory. -- Russ
Love it. The tiles are amazing/insane.
Thanks!
I made the crown molding from strips of quarter-round, L-angle and .020" thick styrene. These were cut and mitered to fit each wall, then painted, prior to being glued in place:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0071c%2FIMG_0071c.jpg&hash=69086c60ec70cd9219d1e3f25bbcd3deaf98698a)
Originally I had planned to just have a simple ticket counter. But after I built the counter, I found some photos of depots with ticket windows built into a kind of room divider with door, separating the customer area from the station agent area. I liked the way these looked and decided it might be a good choice for my depot. So I whipped up a crude mockup made from scrap matt board:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0073%2FIMG_0073.jpg&hash=9dc006278e877240fa632f95e57ef7aa150c097c)
The divider/ticket window assembly was built up from various strips of styrene. Here's a test-fitting:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0088ac%2FIMG_0088ac.jpg&hash=a932f0881f40a073b91cff5c423f1fa60fcdc658)
The rear of the ticket window will be partially visible through the bay window on the south side of the depot, so I built up both sides of the door, plus a separate piece to fit around the windows:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0101c%2FIMG_0101c.jpg&hash=d567c06f582ebaa17ddd6a99451d7577f9ac782a)
The security bars for the ticket window were made from .020" and .030" styrene rod. It might have been better to use brass but this was easier to work with and a lot less sloppy than my rudimentary soldering skills would have done. The bars were painted to look like polished brass"
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0091c%2FIMG_0091c.jpg&hash=98e1faaf6bcd319c302b360901cdf02c217c37f3)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0104c%2FIMG_0104c.jpg&hash=fa74fa8b8b4c8e62b614c30ed28e1c54551d5f1a)
Here's a close up of the finished ticket window. The rippled privacy glass was made from .015" slide cover glass, with clear gloss medium dabbed on the the back to create the rippled look:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0109%2FIMG_0109.jpg&hash=9bb596ec65b1c88e721d0654af485b90be4058f7)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0125%2FIMG_0125.jpg&hash=4e0fa599fd9e3cde896c59043c8ab948cdbbe274)
And here are couple shots of the room with the divider/ticket window installed:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0118%2FIMG_0118.jpg&hash=cb45b2b6fd7606ed0dad67b07e50bd0eac9f36ad)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0124%2FIMG_0124.jpg&hash=e0d7763e228c9bd72aa3a040d8ae73eb3cec716d)
Here's the back of the ticket counter. This will only barely been seen so I didn't put too much effort into it, however I do plan to add a few items setting on the counter:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0127%2FIMG_0127.jpg&hash=a3cbf7cb08979598f9d87d5bd65f3e91e37dc713)
The interior still needs a safe, stove, signs, lighting and other details, which will be added later. For now I'm going to go back to work on the roof so I can get that finished and start painting the exterior of the building.
Modestly spectacular. The ticket office partition is a good choice. That seems to be pretty common in Southern California depots. -- Russ
You have to be kidding me. That is far above doing detail work. Excellent work Ray as always.
Jerry
I'm keen and watch things in anticipatory thrill.
Volker
That's the ticket, Ray! It all looks terrific. Like the rippled glass a lot.
Ray - How did you make (or where did you buy) the rippled glass?
Carlo
Awesome work Ray!
...though your penny looks a little out of scale. Maybe try harder on the next one!
Carlo, he describes how he made the glass in one of the captions. Go back and you'll see it. -- Russ
Sorry Russ, but I did go all the way back and I don't see it.
Could it be in another thread? Help, someone...
Carlo
....and I quote:
"The rippled privacy glass was made from .015" slide cover glass, with clear gloss medium dabbed on the the back to create the rippled look:"
Just joined the forum. Thanks Russ!
I went back and reread the entire thread and am glad I did. Wonderful work Ray and so well documented and described. Can't wait to see the steps in adding the color. Mike
Ray, always incredible!! When you make the safe will it open by combination, have money (in various denominations) and other valuable inside?.....Allan
Allan, go stand in the corner. -- Russ
Ray its looking good in fact it just gets better
Barney
I had hoped to be a lot farther along on this by now, but some major family issues have kept hobby time to a minimum. Anyway, I did manage to paint the floor of the waiting area. I used custom mixed, flat, indoor/outdoor house paints to make it look like terra cotta "Saltillo" tiles:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0156c%2FIMG_0156c.jpg&hash=dbed530ff6234d625d0cb4eb875dbb9d686e2d4c)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0157c%2FIMG_0157c.jpg&hash=9fd8737ad877826610f071fb38ddefca06d57a49)
Ray, I could say I'm floored by how good the tiles look, but I won't. The patched/reinforced areas where the columns will stand is a nice touch.
Man you nailed it!
Color & sheen look spot on!
they say to find a tile with a paw print in it is good luck
Marty
Coloring is perfect.
Jerry
Ditto. Don't know the prototype but it simply looks like tiles ... Will the joints be colored darker or brighter? Hard to say from the picture if there's another tone in it.
Volker
There are times with a project this big, that it really starts to feel like it's sitting on my head and crushing it. This is one of those times. :) I had hoped to be nearly finished with the depot by now, but there's been too many other things going on and even when I do get to work on it, it just seems to take forever.
But anyway, I finally started making some progress on painting the "stone" walls of the depot. I began by giving all the walls a coat of thinned, sandstone-colored house paint:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0165%2FIMG_0165.jpg&hash=6d2c72fc3afa6b9735b47b06b314ea966a686d6a)
Next I brushed on a dark concrete color. Before it dried I wiped it off with a paper towel, being careful to leave as much paint as possible in the mortar lines. This has to be done one small area at a time, or else the paint will dry before you can wipe it off:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0168%2FIMG_0168.jpg&hash=fb037db99684ce0281ecf215de083351cf4a05c1)
The walls are supposed to look like a very light sandstone, similar to this:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FSandstoneWall1c%2FSandstoneWall1c.jpg&hash=83420003bb4d1e08225b3b0167458f92ba4004ef)
So I had to go over each stone with another coat of sandstone paint, using a fine brush. I mixed in a small amount of white to lighten it slightly, and varied the mix so that the stones aren't all exactly the same shade:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0173c%2FIMG_0173c.jpg&hash=f7aae72600ed4e7fec4ce3d6f7d5372d523e85ef)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0178%2FIMG_0178.jpg&hash=e0a6b8732a8c4a9a51e64cfd54f261f341d95f78)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0183c%2FIMG_0183c.jpg&hash=da20bbbd117b519a37dd809fdee93005879c6cbc)
Next I applied thin washes of various shades of rust and brown. To finish it off, I lightly dry-brushed the whole face of the wall with a mix of white and sandstone. I still need to go in with an extra fine brush to touch up some of the mortar lines, but I'll do that later:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0187c%2FIMG_0187c.jpg&hash=14b7c0d658b7e93fc876de205be92506b7e99a7b)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0188%2FIMG_0188.jpg&hash=67c4e5cf00770b14077b67748f93c01e52fe7b6b)
That's one wall done, and only about 37 quintillion more stones to paint. Or so it seems. :)
Did get started on the next portion:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0198%2FIMG_0198.jpg&hash=7e13e87f808316c45dce7775ebc53237dc96753f)
Looking good, very good.
On Saturday we had an open house for our club, the San Diego Garden Railroad Society. Although the depot wasn't finished, I put it out anyway and got a few photos of it on the layout:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8585ac%2FIMG_8585ac.jpg&hash=2a090ad9ddfe517d40355f73f11b0ea1f71933dd)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8592%2FIMG_8592.jpg&hash=f129b683dabc77f573c9e384d053824376d2c8c5)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8601%2FIMG_8601.jpg&hash=a01660c9e2e5b98b2fd618251b870ef64c367371)
Then back to work... I needed to find a way to paint the stone walls faster. I decided to try dry brushing the base color to get most of the stones covered, then just touch up by hand as needed. I tested this out on a wall inside the covered waiting area, where it wouldn't show too badly if it didn't work out. Fortunately it worked pretty well and did speed things up a little. Here's the wall after two coats of paint dry-brushed on, followed by touching up individual stones:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0217%2FIMG_0217.jpg&hash=8f593e2e7b090cc2a151bbc50085bee3e4ccd9d2)
Next I added various shade of color to a few random stones, then finished it off by lightly dry-brushing the highlight color. It ended up a good match for the one wall I had previously painted the slower way:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0219%2FIMG_0219.jpg&hash=a0c0a71b86bcd0ce8ef4383ea3057f30f82e60bb)
With that settled, I continued on to the more prominent walls, taking up where I had left off. In this photo, on the left are the stones that were hand painted. On the right is an area where I've applied one coat of dry-brushed color:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0208%2FIMG_0208.jpg&hash=be467ffac33367f74c6935fb9f38a79e1a5aec53)
Here's the same wall after a second dry-brushed coat and touch up:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0209%2FIMG_0209.jpg&hash=7a536d488ba1c7ae7de9acbb0a1a8af8da0ede39)
And here it is finished:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0222%2FIMG_0222.jpg&hash=d27584c3b93231369451aaaf0247163d4035fe6b)
Another area done the same way:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0213%2FIMG_0213.jpg&hash=1f5a2e51d7f06b3978c6e0fe7f3369618c9773a2)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0230%2FIMG_0230.jpg&hash=ba7aee1435eb2770452c512ad03fa8ab43767949)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0227%2FIMG_0227.jpg&hash=1a14c5a494550229212f7b1850740b03a7fa22c9)
And here are a couple shots of how it looks so far. Still have a lot to do but at least it's progressing at a somewhat more tolerable rate:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0225c%2FIMG_0225c.jpg&hash=8a991761136489a3bd0363ca643bb0a4ab21cceb)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0234%2FIMG_0234.jpg&hash=e929d5792eeee16469dce4a673b8a278acc5f277)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0237%2FIMG_0237.jpg&hash=cf19bf219ad755a68f34497739f6a595f40b42db)
That's all for now. Enjoy!
I hope the club members were impressed.
Are you thinking about applying a subtle weathering overspray once the basic painting is complete?
Russ
The new technique works well. Like the benches too.
Absolutely fantastic!!! Allan
Ray, I like this construction.
Ray the last few interior shots, have that real "just need a sweep" to clean the dust of the floor reality to them. superb job all round on this one, but what also amazes me its that these buildings sit outside in the sun, and they are made of plastic.
Michael
Well, after a lengthy hiatus due to family issues, I'm finally starting to get back into modeling and have made some more progress on the depot...
First off, I finished painting all of the tan-colored, random sandstone. I also painted the balconies to look like concrete, and painted the wooden beams, rafters, and eaves a dark brown. I painted the roofs too, and also put on a coat of base color on the large quarry stone blocks. Here are some pics of how it looks so far:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8831c%2FIMG_8831c.jpg&hash=40231ad519b2d5f49693dc2a239125dc7ce2d91b)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8833c%2FIMG_8833c.jpg&hash=fa820e376254df4f7d8c0e9813225de24928a6ec)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8823%2FIMG_8823.jpg&hash=575411c25aac28bbfbb65ee0420945bc96e5daf1)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8822ac%2FIMG_8822ac.jpg&hash=06a37258be431acad31976e2fbec28a59301c27f)
The sunlight really brings out the texture of the faux stone:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8836c%2FIMG_8836c.jpg&hash=93866816d034530590f6aa46c14cf32d22bf1368)
The structural frame of the bay window has been painted white, then slightly weathered:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8807ac%2FIMG_8807ac.jpg&hash=c6c975dc2572d52a28433bbb6bedd26ee9ba2b78)
The flat roof over the waiting area was given a "tar and gravel" treatment. I painted on a couple coats of flat black house paint. While the final coat was still wet, I sprinkled on some white, decorative stone grit from the craft store:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8809%2FIMG_8809.jpg&hash=56e5036bf9260194daab38d49f2138ef16cb355b)
The Spanish tiles were painted a terra cotta color, with subtle variations on several random tiles:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8800%2FIMG_8800.jpg&hash=bc744775d7a6c156ff53fd2a734c7aaa5a75aefc)
I'm planning to give the quarry stone blocks a colorful, banded sandstone look, similar to the blocks on the Nevada Northern's depot in Ely, NV:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FDepotEly1%2FDepotEly1.jpg&hash=c8a7c35838c07b5442b4e81ac2e6f7b2b3d896a6)
However, I want to change the color a bit. I'd like to match the colors in this sandstone fragment I brought home from one of my Nevada trips a few years ago. Below is a test piece. The color is very close but not quite there yet:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_8814c%2FIMG_8814c.jpg&hash=c33477dc1ad5f88f514bd380b41091db2de17674)
That's all for now. Enjoy!
That is turning out to be one handsome building.
Everything looks wonderful. Especially like the pix taken from the inside looking out through the portico....Allan
I agree, a really fine project.
Very good job !
I'm glad you finally can get back to work on the depot. It's quite satisfactory at this point. -- Russ
Wonderful, Ray. Glad you are back on this project. I like it all, the tiles, the tar & gravel roof, the weathered window, the photos...
Lovely stuff I agree with all - when I get fed up with stuff I start to scale hop !
Barney
How goes the rail road Ray?
Well, after taking several months to recover from the deaths in the family, and then taking my annual camping trip in Nevada, I'm finally starting to get into the mood to do some more work on the depot. However, at the moment I'm still working on getting the pics from my trip organized and posted onto my website. So once that's done I hope to get back to the depot.
Well, after a lengthy hiatus I'm finally getting back to work on this project. I've started painting the large stone blocks around the base of the structure. I'm trying to replicate the look of banded sandstone. Here's how it looks so far:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1095%2FIMG_1095.jpg&hash=ec24605d02158e50ccfe66f3101ad20a5c524a19)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1089%2FIMG_1089.jpg&hash=263ebbd8800f85ed07566f7ac7c5eb51339fdb25)
Ray, That's great! Someday you'll have to start a reference posting on how to model specific kinds of rock :)
I've seen worse .... -- Russ
WOW!
Looks great!
I think with some powder/dust/rain on the whole building to unify it it will be hard to tell it is a model.
Mj
Ray that sure is nice looking. A little weathering and it will looking more like the real one instead of a model. Well done.
Jerry
Ray, you nailed it. As the others said some dust to tone down the brightness/orange a bit will make it indiscernible from real stone.
Volker
I finished painting the stones, but still have to add the weathering, so no new pics of that yet. In the meantime I did some work on some detail stuff.
A few years ago fellow modeler Bob Santos gave me a few of his beautiful, custom made, cast resin detail parts. I've been saving them for the right spot, and this depot is the perfect place for a couple of them. One is a pay phone. I was going to just hang it on the wall in the covered waiting area of the depot, but then decided an old-fashioned, wooden phone booth would be pretty neat.
I built up the walls from various sizes of styrene strips. The panels are scribed siding:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0378c%2FIMG_0378c.jpg&hash=f064a1435956df39edac55c42f6e3b0d21249d95)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0393c%2FIMG_0393c.jpg&hash=7d2fe85ca7947e2f3a687058268baac5c1c9f637)
A 3mm warm-white LED was perfect for the small, domed light inside the booth. The top of the booth is held in place with tiny stainless steel screws, #0 x 3/16":
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0399c%2FIMG_0399c.jpg&hash=b50c9e2123d6a6ad0e507b91636e1c3f0aac57e0)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0403c%2FIMG_0403c.jpg&hash=ee3ef0bb4377aae8c891a276bc27b378e429f186)
Here's how it looks so far. I still have to put glass in the windows and add some signs:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0416c%2FIMG_0416c.jpg&hash=76ba68e9c1b64b10f32a9d5e56901d6e73e6e972)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0413%2FIMG_0413.jpg&hash=3b10e99cba5f10bc886eb47d44401210fa813c63)
I had a lot of interruptions while I was painting the phone, and kind of messed it up, but it'll do:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0406%2FIMG_0406.jpg&hash=2c56f6fad639554bc329f9d6006858223fa46312)
Now there are a couple decisions I have to make. First, should I put doors on it, and if so, should they be open or closed? Open would show the interior better, but closed be easier and would also solve my second problem, namely, how to attach it to the floor? I could just glue it but I try to avoid that, in case it ever needs maintenance or repair. I'd prefer to run a screw up through the floor, but to do that I'd have to glue a block into the interior of the booth for the screw to go into. That would only work if the door is closed so you couldn't see it.
What are your thoughts?
Ray,
what about some Neodym magnets to fix the booth to the floor? At 'quiet earth' I used very small ones (2 x 1 mm round) to fix the desk and a floor lamp to the floor and they keep the items quite tight in place - no need to remove them for transport purposes. Using two magnets instead of a magnet and an iron plate is even stronger. The back of the building had to be closed with a scratchproof plexiglas screen. I wanted to have that removable for visitors which liked to take pictures of the interior (the screen tends to mirror). Four 10 x 5 mm round magnets glued to the screen keep it in place (there are some large screws inserted into the building's walls as counterparts). It's nearly impossible to remove it without pushing it a bit sidewards away from the screws. I think this should work as an outdoor fixture, too.
I'd prefer the door to be open. I love those graffities and the shoe dirt stains at the walls above the floor. Is the phone's cable lead wire?
Cheers,
Volker
Ah, Volker beat me to suggesting magnets! Could you add a "baseboard" around the interior of the booth and drill up into it from the bottom side of the floor to install the magnets? The magnets sound small enough to do that. If they are a little too long to fit flush in the floor, it might be even better as they could act also as alignment pins as well as sticking to the magnets pushed up into the baseboard holes. Those magnets are strong! might try starting with only two corners with magnets! Nice looking booth!
Why not just use a metal rod along the side of the door, which has to be a bi-fold one, to act as the attachment and hinge?
I had made such a mess of the dial, that I decided to try to fix it even though the phone is already glued into the booth. I carefully reached in with a tiny piece of emery board, and sanded off the existing dial. The I scaled down a photo of a real dial, printed it onto self-adhesive vinyl, cut it out, and mounted it on the phone. I touched up the edges with bit of black paint. I also added some small ads and posters to the interior of the booth:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0427%2FIMG_0427.jpg&hash=8d5e37cf22a296104dfaab10b4241a32d1f87bf2)
Another casting I got from Bob Santos was a pot-bellied stove -- just what I needed for the interior of the depot. I used a piece of brass tubing for the smokestack, and also glued a block of Sintra PVC to the bottom. This allows me to secure it with a screw from under the floor. That part of the stove won't be visible through the windows of the depot:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0382c%2FIMG_0382c.jpg&hash=4e496c937c0874500db4f304f90dd9a26d23ba26)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0385c%2FIMG_0385c.jpg&hash=03e28135622012432da453d3349c9f159e8a3356)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0417c%2FIMG_0417c.jpg&hash=f68e609ff39ac70ba9a5d4406cd31c137ce36280)
You vastly have improved the phone. -- Russ
Ray,
That phone booth is perfect except for one little thing.
Where is the chain and binder that holds the always missing phone book? ;) ;D
Rick
Lovely stuff -excellent detail and thought has gone into it
Barney
Lately I've been busy installing and wiring the depot's lights, both interior and exterior, as well as making some more interior details, installing doors and windows, etc.
I made ceiling lamps out of clear plastic beads and brass-plated plastic buttons, with 3mm LEDs:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0444c%2FIMG_0444c.jpg&hash=90c66daf941e4f21dd0fe137f08541d255700c45)
Here are a couple of the simple background details for the interior -- a wall clock and a safe:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0446c%2FIMG_0446c.jpg&hash=37db482f8ead0830f558fb2d30d1ab8e3e68b09f)
The safe is tucked into a corner and will only be partially visible through the bay window, which is why I didn't put too much effort into it:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0448%2FIMG_0448.jpg&hash=9eedda5abe067929f7800a4c8b43d2bb5ea30c08)
This next photo is a bit out of focus, but it does show some of the ceiling lamps:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0452%2FIMG_0452.jpg&hash=fc38d9e8d732b30ddf79545d094993a7b7928b17)
I also made a vintage typewriter for the station master's desk, just inside the bay window. I'm not very happy with the keys but it'll have to do. I couldn't think of any better way to represent them:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0455c%2FIMG_0455c.jpg&hash=f33560b53a1bb98cf0cbfa32014ce7e0bbc11cc6)
That's all for now, more later.
Hey, Ray-- Why not try using the same method on the typewriter keys that you used fixing the phone dial? A friend of mine discovered that when you can only see some interior detail with one eye at a time, your 3-D vision no longer works and a simple photo looks as good as the real thing. He was doing the cockpit interior of a large scale airliner and found that correctly-sized photos of the instrument panel and side consoles looked fully dimensional (and perfectly scaled) when viewed through the cockpit windows. There must be an old typewriter SOMEWHERE that you can shoot down on... DF
I love such interior :-)
For pictures of typewriter keys have s look here (https://www.google.de/search?q=alte+schreibmaschinentastatur&client=safari&sa=X&hl=de-de&biw=414&bih=696&prmd=misvn&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&fir=3bGxaDqnDtlZpM%253A%252Co0sxKxLiM46yDM%252C_%253BntCVL6J_MimaqM%253A%252CitdnPZ7JeKYKhM%252C_%253B1LFPPTybciDUNM%253A%252CQDQurcF4R2jpiM%252C_%253BbLe5FfmhVk97TM%253A%252CvvUVF--2ipbPwM%252C_%253BV0pJKV33bzctoM%253A%252CFDRELmEGzzL_LM%252C_%253BLnWTIRNvYsPN-M%253A%252Cp5DweA8QIAV5_M%252C_%253BeVmIpcodCLoyWM%253A%252CAdYAAcj5qCJgDM%252C_%253BM6k0YHgheEEGqM%253A%252C2mlSapJW1pnNzM%252C_%253B7dzceyhrHeEFLM%253A%252Caqk-uPv_51NJvM%252C_%253BRSzfIGy3oldV7M%253A%252C--hpxjQqMQmWDM%252C_&usg=__2lM4RigUNCqm6biFGBi76oobHQ4%3D&ved=0ahUKEwjf_aHZrq_QAhXkI8AKHVA3BF4Q7AkIIw)
Thanks for the kind comments! Here are a couple more details... First is a desk fan, which I made from the engine fan and jack stand out of a model car kit, plus part of an old Gundam kit and a few other bits:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0464c%2FIMG_0464c.jpg&hash=8ec67db0de29aabe06fd113047c994df260247a1)
Next is a telegraph receiver. Kind of crude in closeup but actually turned out much better than I expected for something so tiny:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0467c%2FIMG_0467c.jpg&hash=9f8af5cb6a67a56cca6f474f0616b8923ea8d413)
And then here's a shot of the desk top, with the items temporarily in position to see how it all fits. I may end up moving the fan to the ticket counter, and replace it with a lamp. This desk will fit into the bay window:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0479c%2FIMG_0479c.jpg&hash=a3f2f0f01a276c980bf551c9dff93f5889472036)
.
... And all this will be outdoors. You are a very talented lunatic. -- Russ
The window shades were made from strips cut from a Tyvek envelope, painted "antique white", and sprayed with Krylon UV resistant matte clear:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0436c%2FIMG_0436c.jpg&hash=b3660326dd77f88038f0906ac2c4b3762a874f40)
These were glued to thin styrene strips mounted on both sides of each window. Lace was then added where needed, to represent curtains:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0438c%2FIMG_0438c.jpg&hash=e0004c614e97f68bab63b389f8446da6427d20ba)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0440c%2FIMG_0440c.jpg&hash=4cea866edae29effc46f4ddfab19adc8db10bf25)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1209%2FIMG_1209.jpg&hash=f9b365c838606a214ec44f59cda77744a65f007f)
Here's a door with the window shade and doorknob installed. The doorknob was made from a tiny, genuine crystal bead:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0439c%2FIMG_0439c.jpg&hash=2e5fbdaefc9ce2e3ed771a77ba9932bfbb7a9853)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0429c%2FIMG_0429c.jpg&hash=d076da0f2798088434de832a5b48dcef4a5414e1)
The balcony railings were made from brass etching, sold by Scale Link in the UK. To make them long enough, I had to butt two pieces together and solder them. Then I added a thin brass rod over the joint, both to reinforce the joint and to strengthen the post. I also add rods to the corner posts:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0541cc%2FIMG_0541cc.jpg&hash=a929aa213899b18d00f72c4d2686ff0d3d29c79b)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0543c%2FIMG_0543c.jpg&hash=39d115a101eb35d7591175ddf67527f7351bc04f)
Strips of 1/32" square brass rod was soldered along the top edge, on the inside, to stiffen the railings. A pair of machinist's "1-2-3" blocks were handy for keeping the etchings flat and holding everything in place during soldering. Excess posts were cut off:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0562c%2FIMG_0562c.jpg&hash=9b31f4c740ff9082be78d0a968ad345f4fdda95e)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0565%2FIMG_0565.jpg&hash=bccb008892b39eb4de6fa516adf7081eb48eba95)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0545%2FIMG_0545.jpg&hash=8829121b73152d6078b38d981abbb7a2f8851a8d)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_0550c%2FIMG_0550c.jpg&hash=ca07ae7215647036ebd159156c0df39d1e8fd86c)
The railings were sprayed with self-etching primer, followed by gloss black, and then UV resistant matte clear. Then I used Sophisticated Finishes' "iron" and "rust" solutions to weather it:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1221%2FIMG_1221.jpg&hash=7c9f0bd3acaf2d58c890711e2f3503170d6bad28)
.
At long last, the Dos Manos depot is finished!
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1259%2FIMG_1259.jpg&hash=910b554515cb64650398738c3c7f11fc18c0f431)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1268c%2FIMG_1268c.jpg&hash=b2d1e5271a9fb1812c94da928da6dc632c1c70e0)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1232c%2FIMG_1232c.jpg&hash=74fd28f5018065fedd80727d2118dd0d531ed58e)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1244%2FIMG_1244.jpg&hash=5a98a14825e5bdd6125c619b89e6fdb6ac874d71)
The signs were printed on self-adhesive vinyl, then touched up and weathered using craft acrylics:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1250%2FIMG_1250.jpg&hash=924d4454cd8c2248008f6937ef8e2484143c796b)
Details of the north side:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1260%2FIMG_1260.jpg&hash=aa18cbb83a351b2e6994f086a92c8b785ce8c434)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1252%2FIMG_1252.jpg&hash=9dfd945febfa2a9025ce4dc3bce9548b60e39e55)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1263%2FIMG_1263.jpg&hash=a5bca4262ea3ebc9700decedacaf5f621ea57f77)
The south side:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1234%2FIMG_1234.jpg&hash=a492158cf8e3fa32d9d407636760283fdd75a722)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1238%2FIMG_1238.jpg&hash=18edfdaa3ace30dee692ba860cc8159e351c4935)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1241%2FIMG_1241.jpg&hash=52a6ff8531da6e562cf3a734a4973e57f8b6666b)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1229c%2FIMG_1229c.jpg&hash=896d47bf4f2a734a2bb6b7b8fd6d5c17c22f1cfb)
I ended up making the door closed on the phone booth. Doing so solved several potential issues. I may add a bench or two inside this waiting area:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1248%2FIMG_1248.jpg&hash=e21c328a46f0771675145d81eef6fee726672276)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1214%2FIMG_1214.jpg&hash=1d211286e45c2e88251d854b6574ea4e43211fdb)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1217%2FIMG_1217.jpg&hash=166ee46677bc354c2998914f951797fa88c922a3)
I'll shoot some night shots this evening.
Although the depot structure is finished, I still need to a bit of work on the foundation and sidewalk. I also have to connect wiring to the depot site.
.
Outstanding Ray,
I feel like I might have been at that station one time when I was a kid.
Bill
Really terrific, Ray, inside & out, top to bottom, construction and colors, details and photos (and anything inadvertently left out.
Beyond awesome. Love the shades.....great!!! Allan
Thanks, guys. I'm really pleased with this one, and it's right up front where visitors can get a good, close look at it. I'm planning to make a special box to cover it when not in use.
Disgustingly excellent. And, yes, cover it to protect it. That depot is a gem. -- Russ
I shot some pics last night with the lights on... it looks so cool! For these shots I just hooked it up to a 9v battery since I haven't yet run wires to the depot site. Here are some of the night pics:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1318%2FIMG_1318.jpg&hash=04c60701c6d6d6ded7d3b2585f13186802a80c47)
In this next shot, the small lights above the depot are from the Cliffside Mine:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1281c%2FIMG_1281c.jpg&hash=1d1a6be8283d42e17ad940419f207a522a78e8fa)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1293%2FIMG_1293.jpg&hash=1250783522deb9049d4e50a4c246cc81541e794f)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1361%2FIMG_1361.jpg&hash=18e3faf9fb72f17a26164e9b429d989f5fa5d5b6)
The frames photos on the wall by the stairs are pics of my dad:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1356%2FIMG_1356.jpg&hash=a9fc640c323ae6a694f0bc5151a15d540ac3accf)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1307%2FIMG_1307.jpg&hash=a7af2d9f489571ce329a21fc045e83125263b130)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1345c%2FIMG_1345c.jpg&hash=5e7c3d3abf8190bfffecd16573f3f40ca7c1855c)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1341%2FIMG_1341.jpg&hash=5e35d27ad53271d9d8e4445fda3633d0137d5eb6)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1336c%2FIMG_1336c.jpg&hash=cd90104c8427117ca6817b6ad57f874ffd8db6ef)
I'm not real happy with the figure seen through the bay window. It was just a resin copy of a cheap figure I found on ebay a long time ago. I may replace it later with something better:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1322%2FIMG_1322.jpg&hash=652476332067e82862dd77cea3203f2d1f4a4276)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Dos_Manos_Depot_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1325%2FIMG_1325.jpg&hash=a458d7cb30334d579fa60996be7acb3e2da9846a)
.
Ray, most phone booths were closed to keep out bad weather.
But open or closed would be fine.
Looks great.
Ray impressive night shots.
I recently built a special box to protect the depot from sun and weather. It's made from 6mm Sintra and painted with white exterior house paint:
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Miscellaneous_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1970c%2FIMG_1970c.jpg&hash=3b4d831aa262d2f18cb7021138550a44d95179d1)
(https://www.finescalerr.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raydunakin.com%2FSite%2FIRR_Miscellaneous_files%2FMedia%2FIMG_1971c%2FIMG_1971c.jpg&hash=321cac82fcabba96e0a4c2e199853e15241e70c9)
It was pretty easy to do this for the depot because it stands alone, and on a flat surface. I would like to do this for my other buildings, but the grouping and locations make it difficult.
That looks like a good idea. How much room is there between the rest of the town and the mountain?
Quote from: Bill Gill on February 09, 2017, 06:18:41 PM
That looks like a good idea. How much room is there between the rest of the town and the mountain?
None. Some of the buildings, the second story actually sits on the side of the mountain.
Oh, my! That looks so much better than the original model! -- ssuR
You should put "TERMITE" signs on it!
;)
Very realistic and great detail - very nice photography and the creation of atmosphere
Barney
Great idea Ray, that depot is special. Of course you have a lot of other buildings that I think should be protected too.
Quote from: lab-dad on February 10, 2017, 04:54:19 AM
You should put "TERMITE" signs on it!
LOL! Now I'm actually feeling tempted to paint it to look like fumigation tenting.
very nice ray-cheers