hi all .
this is going to be a bit of a job one of a few that i have got going more will be added.
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i want to build a new boat for my new travelling display and have been dreaming up for a while.a little tramp steamer measuring 220 mm long 100 mm wide and very shallow-a waterline model.plastic, wood and metal.the main deal will be the painting.these look like the mock ups but i will most build on the rough carbdoard sheels.
cheers kim
This should be an interesting project , Kim . I have long had a fascination with the old Clyde Puffers , which are essentially the same thing as you are building , and would love to build a model of one on a diorama . But like with most thing it is finding the time .
Nick
Cool. Nice sketch, too.
I'm really interested in this project. -- Russ
hi, all.
I have been looking at reference for a while and yes it is close to a Clyde puffer but it seems that they also had a Clyde coal carrier.The difference being the position of the funnel being in front of the wheelhouse, personally, i like the funnel in front of the wheelhouse.my preference is to do with balance, not practically.
but my major reference has come from the comic book series Tintin.i have a wild theory that the author was dyslexia and his skill of putting objects out of their logical position was part of the comics attraction..anyway this little boat is hopelessly out of scale -to fit the space, not the opposite so have a bit of free licence to pick and choose.
as always thank you for your interest.
cheers Kim
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progress the basic shape has been mocked up a few features are beginning to emerge.The flying bridge just like the big ones and the access hatch at the stern .the big feature that will be built at the stern will be the lifeboat davit plus boat.no more mockups now the finished item.
cheers Kim
Quote from: 1-32 on September 24, 2017, 07:14:52 PM
.... my major reference has come from the comic book series Tintin....
Hail All Things Herge!
well done you picked it-Tintin.
That's going to look good , Kim. (Is it Ok to say it'll be "cute"?)
Kim - Nice boat!
Could you post a pic of the Tin-Tin inspiration?
Carlo
Quit goofing off at the computer and get back to building! -- ssuR
Hi, Bill if you want to call a sun damaged 64-year-old Ozzie cute it is ok with me.
Carlo here is my original inspiration .
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I have been looking at this picture for about a year now and I feel you have to draw it to fully understand what you can do with it.I know I can improve it.
The main problem is the placement of the funnel, in real life, it would not be in front of the wheelhouse soi have moved it to the stern.The original illustration and the prototypes are about 3 times longer than my model scaled out is 8 meters long, no worries proportion is important.
on top of the original shape, I will add picked elements that I find attractive like the flying bridge so in the end any semblance to the original inspiration will be gone.
hi, Russ, I hope you are getting more sleep in semi-retirement.
cheers Kim
For a "cartoon", that's a rather lovely piece of art.
There is nothing wrong with having the funnel in front of the wheelhouse
Nick
hello all.
I have been doing a bit of work on my boat of late.funny it has changed from my original drawing-it is now diesel powered having steam would have taken up too much room on a miniature boat of this size.
there will be others.
getting the hull right is a lot of work -styrene construction.with this one there are two layers-a forming layers and a finished layer there will also be added a detail layer.wheelhouse -styrene and the canopy frame brass.
talk soon, Kim.
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I like it!
hi, Ray thank you it is a lot of fun.
cheers
Quote from: 1-32 on September 28, 2017, 12:57:25 PM... if you want to call a sun damaged 64-year-old Ozzie cute it is ok...
you're just hitting stride; following along
This is really coming along nicely!
some inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBMVHvvE410
hi
yes I watched it all the way through -great was it the 1950 ish
cheers Kim.
hi, all .more of my next story is being built.
progress on the boat, track and a rebuilt 1-35 scale on 9 mm gauge little loco.I want a continual run in a small space using a large scale, I have come across jelly models from Milano this is there track 9 mm gauge,37 cm long and get this 6 cm wide really tight curve but it works.this is perfect for me as all you will see is the front.with the diesel Dapto the first version was a bit of a waste so here is the rebuild much better.the boat now has now become a type of salvage boat complete with zodiac rubber run about and hydraulics.the wheelhouse is now at the front.
as to the rest, it will be the same size as Dapto multi-level kit.
cheers.
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Nice work. Wow. That is quite the tight radius, I can hear the howls from the proto-operations crowd all the way across the pacific. :D
who cares I have a whole lotta more fun.I think Fraud once said -go forth and cast off your callipers no it was the French revolution.
no, seriously I have no interest in recreating reality I have neither the space-time money or interest.
cheers Kim
Cool. The boat is looking good. How did you bend the track to such a tight radius?
What is a "jelly model"?
Hi Ray how are you doing.
I buy the track with the radius I was a bit sceptical at first but it works.Jelly Models is a niche model supplier from Milan Italy, they stock all sorts of unusual small-scale railway stuff.this style of track is Crazy Track.
cheers Kim
http://www.jellymodels.com/en/ for those who are interested .
Nick
Quote from: 1-32 on October 26, 2017, 02:34:32 PM
... I have a whole lotta more fun.... seriously I have no interest in recreating reality ....
at one time, I worked for a fellow that was quite well situated. cars, boats, planes, the real thing and he had them all in multiples. someone told me "that lifestyle isn't real".
but it
was real to him and his peers.
personally, I think reality is over-rated, and the beauty of a hobby is to make something which suits "us". so for you, that radius 'round is your reality.
for me? I think the Zodiac is a bit under scale!
yes, you are right my feeling exactly.at this moment I am fiddling around with it. came from a model boat supplier in Los Angeles and I thought to give it a go as it is a hard shape to scratch build.what i am doing is increasing the depth by building up the seat.it is looking a bit better.also, i am having second thoughts about the boat to me it is getting too chunky.what I am worried about is whether it all fit together what I will do I build a few mock-ups of the overall scene and see.
cheers
"personally, I think reality is over-rated"
Feel free to apply that sentiment to more than just modeling!
Russ
ok, I have a bit of an update on the zodiac.the length of the model is fine but it is the width and in particular, the diameter of the rubber floaties are the problem-sorry but all my measures are in mm.inside width has to be 3 mm more and the diameter of the floaties also 3 mm more.I am using my plastic offsider the blue man who has kindly agreed to model in 1-35 scale.i have included a really good reference for a zodiac-like runabout.also in this series I have also included 2 loco type vehicles that can be used for minimum gage which is in my case 1/35 n 9.
cheers, Kim.
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hi all.
well, it has been a funny process from my first drawing of the coastal trader to today's post.
At the moment I have shelved the rusty old boat, i have built this before and have done 3 versions of industrial based water industries before.so.
this is a mock-up of a microdisplay in 1/35 scale.same size as Dapto that is it fits into a carry on suitcase, two levels the top level comes off and fits into the bottom level.the black line at the back is the track -crazy track.overall it is a built-up area around an open swamp.a bit different for me and I like it.
cheers.
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Nice mockup. I like it -- lots of interesting angles and junctions.
Looks good. I'm looking forward to seeing more!
I really like how you arranged those structures. It should be quite an eye catching diorama. -- Russ
hi and good morning, thank you all for the interest.yes generally I like the composition and it works in a small space, I have to confess to being influenced by Asian urban planning.i have a few ideas about what is in there, a small railway but the green spaces are standing out for me.there of course is the local downtown swamp and to counter that on the terrace on the right is a formal roof type garden you can see the doors leading out to it.stripe awnings, gutters, signs and a mixture of wood, concrete, metal and bricks.yes a small square with a few crazy shops.with crazy track it is hard to get wagons to stay within the radius, so the purpose of the signal loco is to get some fuel and supplies from under one of the roofs at the back.
talk soon Kim
looking good and interesting
Barney
hi, Barney how are you doing, at some stage I will add a new heading as soon as ii think of one.
I have been working on a full-size cardboard mock-up and I found I could not fit it all in.the main trouble was the crazy track the distance between the track it was just too small to be of any use.the only solution was to make the track wider this has been done much better I can now fit everything in .the scene itself is slowly taking on more personality as now the front track runs through an alleyway.my little critter is happy as now I can just run no worries.
cheers
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Hello Kim,
looks huge only when I compare it with the ruler, it is actually tiny. I'm curious to see more.
I really like the critter. The track radius, on the other hand, is a little frightening and looks like it might create trouble later, especially if it gets jarred in transit. How uncomfortable you be if the track went point to point with a reversing circuit? -- Russ
Kim, I've seen dioramas in a jar lid, this looks like it could be a diorama in a lasagna pan!
It will be fun to see how you fit this one in.
hi Bill, Helmut and Russ,
Lasagna micro models well Bill I like it .in my life I have had a few names so I might just add it to the list. Russ with my last Dapto I tried to make it point to point and it was a pain in the butt.I like set and forget this tight radius stuff works and I can make it solid .i want to build a few more locos of different types all using micro trains meck 1/35 scale and 9 mm track.what won't work on these very tight curves are wagons no worries just build 4 wheel trucks like one of my reference pictures.
cheers kim
sorry, just one more thought all you will see is part of the front track and a bit of the roof of the loco in a gap in the back.
cheers
I'm fond of micro layouts - tight radii are manageable! The trick is, to arrange everything appearing pleasant and favorable ... very much like your approach!
Cheers
Hello Kim,
look at this video as there are some examples with very tight radii.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jez_e5lU9gQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jez_e5lU9gQ)
Now that I see that the tight curves won't cause problems I withdraw my concern. I already knew you would hide anything that looks strange.
As long as we're on the subject, I happen to love small layouts and and tiny industrial locos. A couple in the video were pretty nice.
Russ
hi Russ no worries, but seriously I think you need to start taking chances again sometimes retirement is not good.not financial chances but chances of the imagination
cheers, Kim.
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that fellow is getting precariously close to the edge