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General Category => Modellers At Work => Topic started by: Henk on April 23, 2009, 03:27:03 AM

Title: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: Henk on April 23, 2009, 03:27:03 AM
Since I was last december and January in New Zealand I knew this is what I want. Not the normal logging layout somwhere in North America, but almost the same thing only in New Zealand. Hoping to make the differences between it. It's the first time for me building like this. I was used at European modelling, like our project Grolschwitz (http://www.irona.nl/ferkelweb/). Now, on my own I want to finish this Bushtram project without any time pressure. And that is also something new for me...  ;D

This building from Classic Miniatures was the first one I build. I know, it's not a Marcel Ackle, but I am pleased with it. Ronald will help me with the tracklaying and therefore his family gets my dog for a week...  ;D

Henk

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Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: mario on April 23, 2009, 11:06:14 AM
Hello Henk,

I share your sentiments about NZ bush tramways a 100%. I love this "everything goes" and "the cheaper, the better" attitude these people had. No boisterous Weyerhaeuser Co. here.

Should you need some additional info, contact me off-list.


Mario
Weinstadt
Germany
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: Henk on April 23, 2009, 11:18:44 AM
Quote from: mario on April 23, 2009, 11:06:14 AM
Should you need some additional info, contact me off-list.
I will, mario.
Geht auch auf Deutsch...  ;)

Henk
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: marc_reusser on April 23, 2009, 12:44:16 PM
Boah...hier kann mann wenn noetig auch in Deutsch mitmachen ;).


Cooles Projekt...bin gespannt wie das weiter geht!


Marc
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: finescalerr on April 24, 2009, 01:19:36 AM
Bitte, sprechen sie Anglais now and then, n'est-ce pas muchachos? -- Russ (who may finally have lost what's left of his mind)
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: Henk on April 24, 2009, 06:00:36 AM
Quote from: finescalerr on April 24, 2009, 01:19:36 AM
Bitte, sprechen sie Anglais now and then, n'est-ce pas muchachos? -- Russ (who may finally have lost what's left of his mind)
No problem, Russ. My English is a still bit rusty, mit Deutsch kenn ich mich noch aus, spreek ook vrij aardig Nederlands and lost all my school French...  ;D

Hope to learn some Kiwi Slang from the family overseas... and build a Kiwi logging layout in this life.

Henk
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: LLOYD on April 24, 2009, 08:53:13 AM
Hello,

et on peu dire que ce batiment minier, un peu dans le style Gilpin a un très bon look!
Comme dit Marc Russer, le seul vrais language ici, est celui du modélisme.
Also, my english is limited and rusty !
Sincerely!

Lloyd
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: finescalerr on April 24, 2009, 11:55:53 AM
Ach, mein Gott! I have begunnen beaucoup of INSANITY! -- ssuR
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: RoughboyModelworks on April 24, 2009, 06:27:27 PM
You speak english good ssuR, for being such a short distance here... ;)

Paul
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: marc_reusser on April 25, 2009, 12:11:49 AM
Henk,

The following three images are from the August 2001 NZModel Railway Journal, from an article about Ngatira, by Paul Mahoney. The photographs were taken by Paul Berntsen in 1974. They show/are of the Bogies that Krusty showed the drawings of.



Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: marc_reusser on April 25, 2009, 12:13:02 AM
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Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: marc_reusser on April 25, 2009, 12:14:17 AM
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Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: marc_reusser on April 30, 2009, 01:44:42 PM
Some more Bush Tram pics I ran across.  These are from the Book "New Zealand Steam Locomotives By Official Number" by Gerald Petrie

M
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: marc_reusser on April 30, 2009, 01:46:10 PM
M
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: jacq01 on April 30, 2009, 03:54:22 PM

    That last photo looks like a bunch of disconnects with a steamed up boiler on top.
    No rivitcounters....................what a freedom.

    Eagerly awaiting what you are coming up with Henk, especially when Ronald is helping you ;) ;)

    Jacq
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: marc_reusser on April 30, 2009, 11:36:59 PM
Jaqc,


It was an Nelson Locomotives F-class boiler, complete with smokebox, handrail & saddle-tank mounts. It is mounted/incorporated in a G&D Davidson locomotive.  The boiler was likely removed from the original locomotive and sold to Davidson in 1910.

Here is another Davidson locomotive, working on the Stuart & Chapman bush tram at Rimu.
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: marc_reusser on April 30, 2009, 11:49:47 PM
Two more Bush tram lines.
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: marc_reusser on May 01, 2009, 12:05:04 AM
Ok...last two.

M
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: Henk on May 09, 2009, 03:12:40 PM
Marc,

Thanks again for the pictures. My cousin in NZ will try to find the books you mentioned before. He got one allready, the book wich is still availlable. The other comes hopefully from "Trade Me". I'll keep you informed.

Than another question, where can I find those curled wheels in On30???  :-\

Henk
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: james_coldicott on May 10, 2009, 12:49:06 PM
Hi Henk,

various UK manufactrers produce curly spoked wheels. Paul at EDM models has them in stock and available from his website:

http://www.ngtrains.com/Pages/Wheels_Trucks/wheels.htm

Hope this helps

James
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: james_coldicott on May 11, 2009, 03:48:20 AM
Henk,

alternatively you could call David Janes at KB scale- he has 5, 6 and 7 curly spoke wheels in 8, 9 and 10.5mm diameters. These are slightly finer wheels but come on axles designed for 14mm gauge so you would have to provide new axles though you may find that there is enough length broaden the gauge to 16.5mm once you've removed the pin points.

http://www.kbscale.com/Wheels.htm

I've used some of these wheels with internal bearings and the pin points removed and found them to be excellent. David is very helpful and his packages always arrive very quickly.

Both these and the wheels from EDM are steel axles and tyres with moulded plastic centres.

James
Title: Re: The Kiwi Bushtram Project
Post by: Henk on September 23, 2009, 03:58:13 AM
Thanks James, sorry that I didn't respond any sooner. The thing is I still havn't found any drawings from te Ellis & Burnand logging disconnects. I have tried several times to get in contact with the Mdel Company in New Zealand, but got no answer whatsoever. Even my cousin who lives there has tried tho phone the man, but no luck.

So I have to build those disconnects without any useful drawings. I have to be honnest, it's the first time for me in this scale so I am still used to 1:87 and European railways. I am learning, but it cost me a lot of time. Here are some pics of the turnouts on the layout.

Henk

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