Jacq's Logging Project Discussion

[artizen]

Sorry - normally the Buntbahn people are the most anal when it comes to detail even in narrow gauge.

Here are a few old photos of logging operations - the logs were carried on anything that came to hand (usually second hand) and range from old freezer chassis to normal flats to proper skeleton disconnects.

http://www.vannattabros.com/histlog23.html
http://www.vannattabros.com/histlog22.html
http://www.brian894x4.com/BradleyWoodardRailroad.html
http://www.oldoregonphotos.com/logging-roll-way-with-tracks-yard-and-steam-donkey-c-1898.html
http://www.oldoregonphotos.com/saldern-s-logging-road-13-1-2-percent-grade-c-1898.html
http://sierraloggingmuseum.org/logging-history/tuolumne-county-logging/early-1900s-logging-photos/

Enjoy!

[marc_reusser]

Jacq,

You are correct in assuming that sadly IMO 90% of the disconnects and skeletons on the market are a figment of someones imagination.....and not a very practical or realistic imagination at that.....but the rr guys buy them anyway....because they look cute, worn and wobbly....and they take zero skill or knowledge to put together. Yes there were numerous companies that built log cars and disconnects...and numerous variations or shop modifications...but they all followed some basic principles and concepts in car construction, load distribution, and function......none of which most of the cars on the market seem to do...and something their mfrs haven't a clue about.

I haven't looked at the Kemtron pack in at least 30 years, but from what I recall they were fairly accurate/correct, ...at least for the examples they measured/used for the drawings.

Sorry for the delay in getting the info.....it's all on a seperate external drive....need to dig out the pics and watermark them before posting.

Not sure about those specific Russel trucks for disconnects.....you need to check the wheelbase, and frame height....but it is possible that some of his might be usable/modifiable/adaptable for making plausible and realistic disconnects that are close enough to the prototypes......might be a bit worried about the plasic frames holding up and keeping their form, with the amount of loading/unloading operation the layout sees.  might want to do a few test ones first.

Marc

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The following posts are some that would be sim to the kind you are trying to build, and that would possibly be used in your scale/type of operation. There are larger higher capacity steel cars, but I don't feel that they are relevant to what you are building.

This initial set of postings are Russel cars (others will follow as I dig them out) but the design principles and construction methods were sim on many cars by other builders.

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Next 3 posts are some photos of real "surviving" disconnects (I did not take thes images...they came off the web a long time back, so unfortunately iido not remeber who took them)

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More of the same car:

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Las one of this car.

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These next 6 images are of a different surviving car (again I do not know who these images came from):

This car is en ex Polsen Lumber Co. car.


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These next three images are from an again different surviving disconnect. (I took these photos at the the 'Roots of Motive Power' logging museum in Willits, CA)

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