• Welcome to Westlake Publishing Forums.
 

News:

    REGARDING MEMBERSHIP ON THIS FORUM: Due to spam, our server has disabled the forum software to gain membership. The only way to become a new member is for you to send me a private e-mail with your preferred screen name (we prefer you use your real name, or some variant there-of), and email adress you would like to have associated with the account.  -- Send the information to:  Russ at finescalerr@msn.com

Main Menu

1/16 Diorama - Backyard Hospital Supply Railway (inspired by Lainz)

Started by mad gerald, October 02, 2013, 12:23:46 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Hydrostat

I'm absolutely with Russ. At least try to achieve a rectangular base, not square. But I figured out here what was possible using your square base.

Volker
I'll make it. If I have to fly the five feet like a birdie.
I'll fly it. I'll make it.

The comprehensive book about my work: "Vollendete Baukunst"

Design-HSB

Hi Gerald,

without a circle I would imagine that as nano layout well.

Only if I imagined, since there is a train in a circle.  ::)
Regards Helmut
the journey is the goal

mad gerald

G'day all,

Planning the ,,foundation stone ceremony" regarding my layout I got a little bit worried about the amount of necessary bricks. Assuming the basic dimensions of the main building will be approx 25 x 30 cm (and 2 storeys high), it would need approx. 2000 bricks only covering the 2 walls visible to the viewer's eye. Pretty much and IMHO a little bit too expensive ...

Looking for an alternative I continued on a little exercise object with the attempt making bricks from card board similar to the technique introduced by Marc and tested be me too ...

I made a drawing using MS PowerPoint, printed on card board (0,5 mm thickness) and cut the bricks with an x-acto, using PVAC glue to fix the single bricks and styrene strips (corresponding width of joints) for adjustment.  

Now ... ,,... Cutting all these bricks by hand, it was so pretty slow ..." ... so a recommendation for a laser cut company would be very much appreciated, as the local ones around here are not interested in such minor jobs ...

Apart from the "bricks from card board" technique, I'm also dabbling with the idea making bricks from plaster using a mould i. e. as offered by Diorama Debris







Cheers

artizen

To speed up the process of gluing individual bricks, try printing the brick pattern on the walls using address labels glued to the cardboard. That way, you can see where each brick goes and there are lines to follow.

The cardboard bricks look surprisingly realistic once painted.

Using Diorama Debris moulds will result in a much heavier module with all that added plaster on the buildings.
Ian Hodgkiss
The Steamy Pudding - an English Gentleman's Whimsy in 1:24 scale Gn15 (in progress)
On the Slate and Narrow - in 1:12 scale (coming soon)
Brisbane, Australia

lab-dad

QuoteUsing Diorama Debris molds will result in a much heavier module with all that added plaster on the buildings.

You better believe it! :-X
Mj

finescalerr

What if you were to use cardboard bricks, as in the photo, and then paint on a thin coat of plaster or something similar? Perhaps you could then distress the plaster more easily than you could card ... and have the best of both worlds. Does anybody know of a good way to do that? Is it even possible? -- Russ

mad gerald

... hmmmm ... ::) ... I think I'll stick to the card board bricks (even though cutting them all by hand is a PIA) - at least regarding this excercise object ...

Cheers

chester

Staying a bit with Russ's idea. Spray or roll a coat of paint on the bricks and sprinkle some kind of powder while the paint is still wet on them to give them some texture. Brush off what one doesn't want when dry.

Hydrostat

Using cardboard I would recommend not to bend it round the corners. You may build the edge stones outside of the wall from two pieces, seal with CA, file to shape and then apply them. Chester's suggestions seems reasonable to me, maybe you can mix some coarse plaster or extremely fine sand into a brick red ground colour. Anyway you'll have to seal the cardboard for you'll have to add mortar and so on. There are several possibilities aside of CA like clear nail enamel or the stuff the cardboard kit providers use to strengthen their material before painting.


Cheers,
Volker
I'll make it. If I have to fly the five feet like a birdie.
I'll fly it. I'll make it.

The comprehensive book about my work: "Vollendete Baukunst"

mad gerald

G'day all,

Thanks for your additional input, guys ... I especially like your suggestion, Ian:
Quote from: artizen on April 14, 2014, 03:03:23 PM
To speed up the process of gluing individual bricks, try printing the brick pattern on the walls using address labels glued to the cardboard. That way, you can see where each brick goes and there are

IMHO the card board surface does not need any treatment as it has a discreet/slight structure, similar to real slightly weathered bricks ...  ::)

Using card board for bricks can work pretty well, have a look at Marc's attempt and result:

Quote from: marc_reusser on June 12, 2011, 12:35:28 AM






My attempt was by far more humble and just for testing, if it would work, using the scrap from spiral binding systems and I built the bricks used for corners from 2 pieces, sealed with CA, as suggested by Volker ...



Marc had cut the bricks for corners like this:

Quote from: marc_reusser on May 23, 2011, 09:57:38 PM

5.) Here is how the corners were done. The "wedge" is removed/cut from the side with the scribe mark. (the scribe mark serves as an "eye-balling guide" when making the cuts.




The card board I use now has only a thickness of approx. 0,45 mm – and there appear no affections (bulges) on the surface, when I glue it around the corner.

Well, let's see how it looks like, when it gets coloured ...  ::)

Cheers

Ray Dunakin

Visit my website to see pics of the rugged and rocky In-ko-pah Railroad!

Ray Dunakin's World

mad gerald

G'day all,

Now almost all individual cut out card board bricks have been glued to the exercise object ... in fact ALL bricks are mounted while posting this ;) ... it was a real PIA (labor-intensive and time-consuming) ... but IMHO the (intermediate) result turned out to be quite good ...  ::)

One thing I learned is, that the blade has to be pretty sharp - otherwise the card board tends to fray along the the cutting lines.

The other thing I noticed is, while gluing all these single bricks, that such a brick wall looks much better with some additional brick variations/ornaments (like in the upper section) and different layers. As there are several older brick buildings 'round here, I got good opportunities for research and comparison.

Now I'm waiting for the colours to arrive (I ordered recently), similar to the ones used by Marc ...









Cheers

Malachi Constant

-- Dallas Mallerich  (Just a freakin' newbie who stumbled into the place)
Email me on the "Contact Us" page at www.BoulderValleyModels.com

Ray Dunakin

Looks great! I agree that adding some brick "ornamentation" helps a lot. It also is one of the things that distinguishes it from "brick sheet" modeling.

Oh, and I love the rust and peeled paint on the door!
Visit my website to see pics of the rugged and rocky In-ko-pah Railroad!

Ray Dunakin's World

finescalerr