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Model of the Russian railway lineman house for "garden". Scale 1:25.

Started by kudrdima, September 02, 2016, 05:59:27 PM

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kudrdima

Hello all!

Ray Dunakin, Bill Gill, Lawton Maner, lab-dad, Sami!
Thanks to all for kind words - I will try not to deceive your expectations.

Continuation...
While "fuss" with a roof continued, was engaged in a chimney.

3D - modeling of a chimney:

Сторожевой дом №32, труба 4, 2016.08.14 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr


Сторожевой дом №32, труба, 2016.08.14 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

Apportion of ranks of a bricklaying:

Сторожевой дом №32, труба 6, 2016.08.14 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

The chimney will be collected from the made foam PVC 3 mm thick - transfer of an apportion of ranks of a bricklaying on the sheet PVC, cutting separate brick ranks:

20160813_204203_ by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

Milling of vertical seams of a bricklaying:

20160815_214951_ by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr


CM160815-21552903 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

"Brick course" of a laying are ready - are cut and milled.
The chimney is put "on chilly" - it was necessary to stick together, ground and paint:

20160816_220708_ by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

Prime:

20160821_232654_ by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr


20160821_233013_ by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

To be continued...

P.S. Once again I ask forgiveness for the awful translation of specialized terms - though I and I translate some words by means of the Russian-English structural dictionary, not all words are in it...

It is more than photo, in the bigger permission in a photo album to flickr'e: Строительство модели Сторожевого дома с надворными постройками.
I apologize for the English - a transfer is from Russian into English made by means of an online translator of PROMT

Hydrostat

Dmitriy,

your work makes me speechless. I still can't get it how precise your results are and how real the painted building looks like. I'm really looking forward to the pictures you'll take of the finished Building out in natural light.

Cheers,
Volker
I'll make it. If I have to fly the five feet like a birdie.
I'll fly it. I'll make it.

The comprehensive book about my work: "Vollendete Baukunst"

kudrdima

Hello all!

Quote from: Hydrostat on October 11, 2016, 11:04:17 AM
Dmitriy,
your work makes me speechless. I still can't get it how precise your results are and how real the painted building looks like...
Volker!
Thanks, for inspiring words - is my first model (and very much I hope not the last ;) ).

Painting.
1st layer:

IMGP4405 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

2nd layer:

20161015_110047_ by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

The 3rd layer and attempt of giving of the "lived" look:

20161015_143911_ by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

To be continued...

P.S. Once again I ask forgiveness for the awful translation of specialized terms - though I and I translate some words by means of the Russian-English structural dictionary, not all words are in it...

It is more than photo, in the bigger permission in a photo album to flickr'e: Строительство модели Сторожевого дома с надворными постройками.
I apologize for the English - a transfer is from Russian into English made by means of an online translator of PROMT

finescalerr

Maybe blend the black paint into the roof with a light, thin overspray of green? -- Russ

kudrdima

Yes - me the same isn't pleasant the place below a chimney - something is necessary with these the place to do...
I apologize for the English - a transfer is from Russian into English made by means of an online translator of PROMT

Bill Gill

Dmitriy, The photo of the 3rd layer is darker than the photo of the 1st layer and it is difficult for me to tell how dark the soot and stains really are in your 3rd photo. What looks wrong to you? if it is just that the soot color is too strong, perhaps a few very thin washes of the green will help, but perhaps the "soot" and other dark areas on the roof are a little too uniform in color? Most old copper roofs that I have seen still have some traces of the dark brown oxide that the copper turns before it develops the green patina, and sometimes there is almost a rust color as well.

What kind of smoke do you think came out of the chimney? Wood smoke? coal smoke?  The ash from either one would also leave a lighter color and acid from a coal fire that settled onto the copper below the chimney would change the color of the copper when it got wet in the rain.

I think if you first added a brown wash over the "soot" color and when that cured, a thin wash of the green and perhaps in a few place an even lighter green might be what you are looking for?

Ray Dunakin

The roof is very interesting to me. I've never seen one quite like it before, the way the rain gutter is built into it (as opposed to something that is attached to the eaves). And you've modeled it quite well!

Visit my website to see pics of the rugged and rocky In-ko-pah Railroad!

Ray Dunakin's World

kudrdima

Quote from: Ray Dunakin on October 15, 2016, 10:50:05 PM
... I've never seen one quite like it before, the way the rain gutter is built into it (as opposed to something that is attached to the eaves)...
Ray!
Roof integral trough along the lower edge of the roof slope  were very widespread in Russia in the 19th century and I continue to be applied still. Possibly the reason that suspended trenches are more subject to damage by snow and ice which slip from a roof.

Examples:
S. M. Prokudin-Gorsky. A general view of a northern part from the Assumption Cathedral belltower. Smolensk. 1912:


S. M. Prokudin-Gorsky. Kaslinsky settlements with the lake [Kasli]. 1909:


Design:
I apologize for the English - a transfer is from Russian into English made by means of an online translator of PROMT

kudrdima

Hello, Bill!
Quote from: Bill Gill on October 15, 2016, 02:36:39 PM
Dmitriy, The photo of the 3rd layer is darker than the photo of the 1st layer and it is difficult for me to tell how dark the soot and stains really are in your 3rd photo. What looks wrong to you? ...
It seemed to me that soot traces too obvious and contrast roofs of rather next sheets.

Quote from: Bill Gill
... if it is just that the soot color is too strong, perhaps a few very thin washes of the green will help, but perhaps the "soot" and other dark areas on the roof are a little too uniform in color?...
... I think if you first added a brown wash over the "soot" color and when that cured, a thin wash of the green and perhaps in a few place an even lighter green might be what you are looking for?
I softened blackness of soot near a pipe a little and added a little terracotta color for imitation of traces of a rust from an iron cap of a chimney.

Quote from: Bill GillMost old copper roofs that I have seen still have some traces of the dark brown oxide that the copper turns before it develops the green patina, and sometimes there is almost a rust color as well.
In Russia then (the 19th century) and now a copper roof not the cheapest - not each cathedral was able to afford. A prototype of model is especially utilitarian building - the roof is ironed and painted:

S. M. Prokudin-Gorsky. Ryazan. A general view from the Assumption Cathedral belltower about sowing. - [East]. 1912

Quote from: Bill GillWhat kind of smoke do you think came out of the chimney? Wood smoke? coal smoke?...
Even in the capital of the Russian Empire furnaces heated firewood.
St. Petersburg, the downtown, 1875 - barges with firewood:
I apologize for the English - a transfer is from Russian into English made by means of an online translator of PROMT

kudrdima

Hello all!

Quote from: Hydrostat on October 11, 2016, 11:04:17 AM...  I'm really looking forward to the pictures you'll take of the finished Building out in natural light.
I will consider that the roof is finished - a photoshoot at daylight (unfortunately it was cloudy, without the sun):

IMGP4424 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr


IMGP4428 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr


IMGP4425 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr


IMGP4421 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr


IMGP4427 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

Current state of "construction" and first visitors:

IMGP4414 by Dmitriy Kudryashov, on Flickr

The current weight - 11,8 kg (with a socle)...

To be continued...

P.S. Once again I ask forgiveness for the awful translation of specialized terms - though I and I translate some words by means of the Russian-English structural dictionary, not all words are in it...

It is more than photo, in the bigger permission in a photo album to flickr'e: Строительство модели Сторожевого дома с надворными постройками.
I apologize for the English - a transfer is from Russian into English made by means of an online translator of PROMT

finescalerr

Yes! The roof looks good! So does the rest of the model. -- Russ

Hydrostat

Dmitriy,

the model is outstanding and taking the pictures under a cloudy sky isn't counterproductive at all.

Regarding the stains: I'd advice to rather use washes in several layers than trying to mix a final tone. There's less danger to have to dark areas, and blending stains into surrounding areas is much easier. For sure you did that. Exactly. An I make a fool of myself  :D. To me the chimney itself is lacking some weathering, at this stage it look's a bit like a foreign matter. The dark tones on the roof around it would have affected the chimney, too. Don't know if at the upper or lower areas. Upper, if smoke directly deposes on the stones, lower, if dirt from the chimney's covering is washed down by rain, what seems to happen with the roof, too.

To make it a bit complicated: During my studies I worked at an art foundry. They told me, that air pollution (at least around 1995) made new copper roofs or bronce parts rather getting black than green, so we had to artificially 'green' the bronce sculptures, but I don't recall the chemical being used back then. Maybe those dark stains aren't caused by smoke or ash directly but rather by some acid smoke ingredients, which would have the chimney's stones rather leave unstained?

However, taking a look at a building with a copper roof and wood firing, which still is in use (both the building and firing) may give the answer.

Cheers,
Volker
I'll make it. If I have to fly the five feet like a birdie.
I'll fly it. I'll make it.

The comprehensive book about my work: "Vollendete Baukunst"

kudrdima

Hello, Volker!
Quote from: Hydrostat on October 17, 2016, 12:45:19 AM... To me the chimney itself is lacking some weathering, at this stage it look's a bit like a foreign matter. The dark tones on the roof around it would have affected the chimney, too. Don't know if at the upper or lower areas. Upper, if smoke directly deposes on the stones, lower, if dirt from the chimney's covering is washed down by rain, what seems to happen with the roof, too. ...
I also didn't doubt that you will notice it! ;)

Yes - the chimney was only the day before painted with the main tone and will "be improved" still. As well as wood of designs of a roof which look too brand new.

With gratitude and respect,
              Dmitry Kudryashov.
I apologize for the English - a transfer is from Russian into English made by means of an online translator of PROMT

Lawton Maner

If the horse in the last picture wasn't shiny, you would have fooled all of us with the model.

Ray Dunakin

Visit my website to see pics of the rugged and rocky In-ko-pah Railroad!

Ray Dunakin's World