Watery Grave

[marc_reusser]

Thanks, there are still a number of steps to finish it off, but it was good to find the right colors. Also found out that red is a PIA to weather ....might need to add some color mapping on the final buoy to add some more intrest and depth.


Marc

[RoughboyModelworks]

Yes it is... Did you have any reference photos to work from? I'm curious about the corrosion and streaking since buoys are continually wet... I made it a policy not to get too close to these things during my sailing days, so really don't have a point of reference.

Paul

[marc_reusser]

Yes, I pulled a number of ref. pics.....of course I might have been selective for streaky ones.. .....but unlike active sea/ocean buoys that get fairly wet all over, this buoy is an old and neglected one, located in a somewhat shelltered setting that does not get a lot of wave action...but does get rain and the typical moist night air......(the list/tilt being from a recent slow leak into the buoy...thus the streaking still follows the vertical path).

I need to add some darker streaking and settled rust around the vertical parts/details on the platform base, an in the chips



Marc

[Frederic Testard]

Nice look, Marc, I'll borrow your finish ideas for my still to be built model.
Why do the waves modify the way the thing gets corroded?

[Gordon Ferguson]

Well for a trial piece its not bad 

And now I understand why your works looks finer than anything I can produce  " its just a piece of 10 thou " and also because you have a very clear view of the colour/tones of the finished piece you do seem to get the first coats of colour right i.e light enough to take the subsequent weathering  ( I'm going to ignore the indirect boasting on the number of different paints/manufacturers you have - you have admitted to this collection before)

Now for my couple of comments and questions

The "fading with white oil paint" do you apply this as a thinned wash over the whole piece or by applying small dots of neat white and then drag/thin them out as the the armour guys do ?

Rust streaking .... I can follow your logic on the leak proving the list of vertical,  but, would the vertical streaks be as pronounced if the buoy was still floating and therefore even in almost calm conditions still moving? I think the effect you have so far, which I do like, would be more likely to appear if the buoy was washed/dragged up on the shore and not moving ... obviously the streaks would then need to reflect the angle of the buoy v the shore. (think of the fun you could then have with the rusty/barnacled covered anchor chain)


OK before going to the mythical corner I'm of to find a horse that will let me borrow some hair

[marc_reusser]

Gordon,

I wish I could find some 003 styrene!    Just think of my paints as substitutes for porn mags....but I don't have to worry about hiding them from the wife. Sorry if I seemed to be 'indirectly boasting'...not my intent...although I did buy 10 more colors on Saturday.

The buoy actually has 3 values of the same color...each one just lighter.  If you look close at the second photo, you can see that I did a combination of fading/panel fading (most noticeable on the rounr top of the base), weather streaking (notably on the base, and on the flat upper panels), and color modulation (noticeable when you look at the difference in value at the top of the tower, compared to where it hits the base). By working progressivelylighter each time, I can leave or cover as much of the darker previous shades as needed.

I used to have major issues with finding the color I want, or ending up with it drying too dark or just wrong.....my solution has been my color charts that I make showing the original colors, and then the mixes (noting the ratios)....this way I can see what I will be getting for the base color.....and I can go back and look at the info later if I ever need it...or just plain see the colors and mixes to see if I want to use them for a current build.

I applied the oil fading directly from the brush (I used a flat round tipped brush)...just lightly dabbed the tip  into a dab of oil paint, and then applied it (this was often repeated a number of times till I got the shade/look/lightness I wanted). On the flat top of the base, I worked it around in a pushing and circular type motion, whereas on the sides of the base and on the flat number panels I worked the brush in a vertical motion...the same way water would run down them fading the color (this is sim to the idea of "rain streaks").

I admit that as you say, the streaking is more reminiscent of a beached buoy....since some of the images I had were of that....but I actually found a few in the water that had it (unfortunately I printed them, and did not save them on the PC)......and generally, just figure it as a charicatureish "On30 Conspiracy" interpretation , done for visual effect ....be happy it's not yeller-and-green. I was actually considering some barnacles on the area bare rust area that used to be below the water surface....but seeing that this was in an estuary type area with a mix of fresh and salt water, and a ton of pollution, I was not sure how much life would grow on it....maybe a bit of green slimey algae.


Marc

[Chuck Doan]

Boy is looking good! Or boo-ee.

Mylar drafting film is approx .004 thick.

[narrowgauger]

Hi Marc

find the subject very interesting and very much to my heart.

have just gone back through the thread because there was something bugging me that I has intended to contact you about.  now remembered what it was.

there is something wrong with the bulwarks, particularly the stern (although the bow also fits into my comments).  Both areas are out of balance with the hull and the upper works.  the rake and lines are very good, but I think the stern bullwarks are far too high for this hull, thus creating an imbalance in the lines.  in the same vein the stern could also be a fraction lower to give a better balance with the upper works.

Love the angle on the marker buoys.  Brings these to life.

as always I am really enjoying looking at your work.

have fun

Bernard

[narrowgauger]

Hi Marc

forgot to attach the photos to illustrate the point I am trying to convey.

Bernard

[Ray Dunakin]

Here are a few pics I found of rust streaks on bouys in the water:

[Frederic Testard]

The 110  .018 dia. rivets were punched from .005 styrene, using a Waldron punch and die set.

Marc, I have been searching this punch and die set and on the links I've found the smallest diameter was 0.039" (1mm). Is there a secret magic formula to utter while googling to find it?

[Malachi Constant]

Frederic --

Try:  "Waldron sub miniature punch and die set"

(The "sub miniature" bit would be the key to finding the smaller set)

Sample listing with photo:
http://www.greatmodels.com/~smartcart/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=WR0019

Note:  I haven't dealt with this vendor or purchased the tool yet ... it's just on my list of interesting advice from Marc that should be tried at some point! 

Cheers,
Dallas

[jacq01]

   Don't forget the seagulls.  they leave some nice colours behind 

   Looks great.

   Jacq

[Frederic Testard]

Thank you, Dallas. It's expensive...

[Junior]

Marc, saw this over at the MIG forum awhile ago and didn´t realize until today that there was a thread here as well. Some of the best work I have ever seen...............world class!

Anders